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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 21, 2023 12:46:08 GMT
“Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.”
The establishment
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 21, 2023 19:16:06 GMT
And now the government is telling GBNews to wind it's pro Brand presenter's necks in. Anti Brand is fine.
So, media makes accusations. No charge as yet. Government wants to control the narrative.
It's not about the allegations. It's about Brand calling out the establishment, to a large audience.
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Post by bubba on Sept 22, 2023 17:44:39 GMT
“Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.” The establishment Spot on, I'm absolutely stunned (should know better) at her behaviour, it's outrageous and I defy anybody to defend her, there is no defence.
Trial by media obviously not the first time we've seen this but the level is something else. Dredgng up everything from last 30 years, some of it completely innocent but being presented with a twist to paint a picture and nobody from The Establishment questioning it.
I don't know whether he's guilty or innocent, I suspect the latter but I don't know but I do know the media treatment not to mention this bloody MP is completely wrong. Due process, IF there's ever even any charges bought, though I'm sure the pressure for the police to do just that wll have no bearing whatsoever. It's a scandal. Forget your political leanings there's right and wrong, the law and due process, if we tolerate this, then our children will be next.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 22, 2023 18:58:56 GMT
“Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.” The establishment Spot on, I'm absolutely stunned (should know better) at her behaviour, it's outrageous and I defy anybody to defend her, there is no defence.
Trial by media obviously not the first time we've seen this but the level is something else. Dredgng up everything from last 30 years, some of it completely innocent but being presented with a twist to paint a picture and nobody from The Establishment questioning it.
I don't know whether he's guilty or innocent, I suspect the latter but I don't know but I do know the media treatment not to mention this bloody MP is completely wrong. Due process, IF there's ever even any charges bought, though I'm sure the pressure for the police to do just that wll have no bearing whatsoever. It's a scandal. Forget your political leanings there's right and wrong, the law and due process, if we tolerate this, then our children will be next.
I've had trouble accepting he's on the level, because he used to be a raving commie, and no-one gets a monetized 6.5 million sub channel whilst speaking truth to power. I'm trusting him more, now. I've no idea whether he's innocent or not. None of us have any idea. The thread wasn't intended to be a discussion about that. It wasn't intended to be about whether his topics are accurate or not. Her behaviour. You'll note I'm sure, the 'opposition' hasn't had an issue, whereas with allowed subjects, they jump on criticism. The media have contacted people from his past. They started this up to 4 years ago. They aren't interested in anyone giving him a good review. For four years, they haven't put much together. The period of his life they are talking about, was when he was working for them. He was their darling. They must have known what he was like, everyone else did. They didn't care. They wouldn't care now if he was still calling Farage, Hopkins etc; nazis. But our sweet government have piled in. You can find Rumble's response to the government's request. A beauty, bless 'em. Now considering their indifferent attitude to the haircut gangs and so on, the reason why they are getting involved, trying to financially cut him off, telling GBNews to not say anything positive about him etc; should be obvious. They don't know whether or not he's guilty, and frankly don't tend to give much of a shit about these things. He's over the target. And he's got a massive following. Also in the news - Nigel Farage - the FSA said they can't see any indication his bank made their decisions due to his politics. I have my issues with both of them. The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend. But they can be an ally. We have to back Mr Brand. We'd have to back anyone in this position. Anyone at all. Our children. It's why we're bothered at our age. It's for them. Sadly Tony jnr is your standard - if the media doesn't cover it, it hasn't happened; and if they do cover it, it played out exactly as the media says it did. So depressing.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 22, 2023 19:02:49 GMT
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 22, 2023 21:06:09 GMT
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Post by bubba on Sept 22, 2023 22:24:29 GMT
Again I'm not saying he's innocent because we don't know,, hmm, you'd think they'd enshrine that concept in law, a kind of presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law, I'm just spitballing here, anyway isn't it a little strange that out of the alleged 4 or 5 victims, not a single one went to the police first?
Now I actually have a family member who was raped and didn't let on to anyone for 15 years, so I'm not insensitive to the trauma suffered and the mental anguish regardng reporting it, but not one of 4 or 5 went to the police? ALL of them decide to go with a newspaper or newspapers, WHY? Is that where you go to report crimes? There's something very fishy about this whole thing. Even if you accept it's just good old fashioned investigative journalism digging out a wrong un, what have they done to extract these claims from these women who for more than aa decade have all remaineed silent and why has not a single one of them either before or since being contacted by the media gone to the police? Do they have deals with these newspapers? Are they conditional upon the ladies not going to the police and giving the papers exclusivity? Just what are the motivations at play here because it certainly doesn't ring true that it's all about justice.
If something happened to one of mine, no amount of money or enticements would deter me from immediately contacting the authorities. OK not everyone is the same, I get that but ALL OF THEM? Really?
On another note rape is about power, it's not about sexual gratification, textbook psychology. Yet Brand has long admitted beng formerly a sex addict and sleeping with up to 5 women per day so clearly getting sex was not a problem so what other examples are there regarding him seeking power over others? Have seen nothing anywhere by anyone suggesting this. I don't know, we don't know, but there's something rotten in Denmark here imo.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 22, 2023 22:58:18 GMT
Again I'm not saying he's innocent because we don't know,, hmm, you'd think they'd enshrine that concept in law, a kind of presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law, I'm just spitballing here, anyway isn't it a little strange that out of the alleged 4 or 5 victims, not a single one went to the police first?
Now I actually have a family member who was raped and didn't let on to anyone for 15 years, so I'm not insensitive to the trauma suffered and the mental anguish regardng reporting it, but not one of 4 or 5 went to the police? ALL of them decide to go with a newspaper or newspapers, WHY? Is that where you go to report crimes? There's something very fishy about this whole thing. Even if you accept it's just good old fashioned investigative journalism digging out a wrong un, what have they done to extract these claims from these women who for more than aa decade have all remaineed silent and why has not a single one of them either before or since being contacted by the media gone to the police? Do they have deals with these newspapers? Are they conditional upon the ladies not going to the police and giving the papers exclusivity? Just what are the motivations at play here because it certainly doesn't ring true that it's all about justice.
If something happened to one of mine, no amount of money or enticements would deter me from immediately contacting the authorities. OK not everyone is the same, I get that but ALL OF THEM? Really?
On another note rape is about power, it's not about sexual gratification, textbook psychology. Yet Brand has long admitted beng formerly a sex addict and sleeping with up to 5 women per day so clearly getting sex was not a problem so what other examples are there regarding him seeking power over others? Have seen nothing anywhere by anyone suggesting this. I don't know, we don't know, but there's something rotten in Denmark here imo.
No-one other than Brand or the accusers knows, but for me, it's not the point of the thread, either way. My understanding is, these women didn't got to the police OR the media. The media sought them out. Approached them. Approached a lot of women. Over about 4 years. The media (and our sweet government) is bent on nailing Brand. It isn't a stretch to think it might be financially rewarding to smear him. Anonymously. Bad enough the media, but now an MP is trying to bypass the courts (who aren't exactly unbiased anyway) to bury a guy WHO HASN'T EVEN BEEN CHARGED (yet ?). It's about what he's saying, not about what he may have done. They don't give a fcuk either way about what has or hasn't been done, what he's saying is a problem to them. I'm pretty sure they had the goods on Savile when he was alive. How much interest have they shown in the Epstein flight lists ? I am in zero doubt, he was a much worse person when he was working for the media, than he is now. I am in zero doubt that if he was guilty, and they knew it, but was still pushing the commie stuff, they would have covered it up. Furthermore, if despite their efforts, he got found guilty, if he was still one of their guys, they'd push their usual 'he has mental problems, we should feel sorry for him', Edwards / Schofield style. Will Amnesty International stick it's beak in? I doubt it. Seriously. The government is going after a British citizen who has been ACCUSED of something. Not left it to the cops - straight in. The masks are coming off all the time.
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Post by cnote on Sept 23, 2023 8:01:08 GMT
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 23, 2023 12:29:11 GMT
OK I'm in. Thank you. They don't put up controlled opposition that good. I wish I'd listened to him more than I did. I'll put that right. On Rumble. Sadly I think the hit job will work on a lot of Joe Public. Once the cathedral buries someone, many / most people's opinion has formed, so they don't actually listen to the target 'in their own words', which if you remember from the 10 rules for truth seeking, is vital. "He went after Blackrock and Vanguard, they're the head of the hydra" Hydra ?
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Post by expatjohn on Sept 23, 2023 13:29:24 GMT
What an absolute load of bollocks! Does anyone seriously believe Russell Brand is a comedian?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 13:45:45 GMT
What an absolute load of bollocks! Does anyone seriously believe Russell Brand is a comedian? He's not a comedian, to be fairly honest I don't even know what he's famous for other than trolling Andrew Sachs.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 23, 2023 14:31:16 GMT
What an absolute load of bollocks! Does anyone seriously believe Russell Brand is a comedian? What's bollocks ? If you just mean Russell Brand is a comedian, I'm with you there.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 23, 2023 14:34:54 GMT
What an absolute load of bollocks! Does anyone seriously believe Russell Brand is a comedian? He's not a comedian, to be fairly honest I don't even know what he's famous for other than trolling Andrew Sachs. He was a media darling for a while, which is obviously a red flag. However he seems to have turned rogue. If you watch cnote's vids, and read most people's posts, you should see what I'm on about.
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Post by cnote on Sept 23, 2023 20:10:01 GMT
OK I'm in. Thank you. They don't put up controlled opposition that good. I wish I'd listened to him more than I did. I'll put that right. On Rumble. Sadly I think the hit job will work on a lot of Joe Public. Once the cathedral buries someone, many / most people's opinion has formed, so they don't actually listen to the target 'in their own words', which if you remember from the 10 rules for truth seeking, is vital. "He went after Blackrock and Vanguard, they're the head of the hydra" Hydra ? View AttachmentHe also went in on the military war complex and pharmaceutical’s. He drops alot of truth bombs. Don’t get me wrong I believe he’s being a complete arsehole at times and he’s probably more than guilty of vulgarity. I don’t believe he’s raped anyone. That said if evidence to the contrary came out I would have to concede.
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Post by cnote on Sept 23, 2023 20:13:37 GMT
It’s the tactic the establishment use to take you down. Julienne Solange, is a hero in my books but for many he’s everything the media portrays.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 23, 2023 21:01:42 GMT
I don't know whether he's guilty or not. It's not the point of the thread.
In an attempt to take down Brand, the regime has exposed themselves some more.
As I said above, the enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend, but could be an ally. Our weapon is the truth. Once everyone knows the truth, everything else should follow.
I'm not interested in Con v Lab, as anyone paying attention should know. They are both regime puppets as far as I'm concerned. For me it's regime v humanity. He seems to be on humanity's side. I'll still look for any slip ups, though. Russell Brand. Strange times.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 25, 2023 15:47:05 GMT
No comment necessary
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Post by cnote on Sept 27, 2023 5:16:52 GMT
I heard they Bumble, got a letter from the government threatening them with all sorts.
I think we have to accept this is the new norm as I can’t see things changing back to what we had before Covid.
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Post by cnote on Sept 27, 2023 5:27:14 GMT
Jill Dando, is trending again due to a Netflix production about her killing. Some are arguing she was murdered to stop her exposing a paedohile ring within the bbc.
It’s rather strange how after 30 years we still have no idea of who killed her. Either the killer is just lucky or it’s a well planned execution from a hitman.
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 29, 2023 13:50:02 GMT
I heard they Bumble, got a letter from the government threatening them with all sorts. I think we have to accept this is the new norm as I can’t see things changing back to what we had before Covid. Of absolutely not. I was saying that in 2020 Apparently the government have contacted Musk, and he's not having it either. The trouble is, Twitter & Rumble could find themselves as welcome in the UK, as RT
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 29, 2023 13:52:05 GMT
Jill Dando, is trending again due to a Netflix production about her killing. Some are arguing she was murdered to stop her exposing a paedohile ring within the bbc. It’s rather strange how after 30 years we still have no idea of who killed her. Either the killer is just lucky or it’s a well planned execution from a hitman. If she was, I can't believe no-one knew that, that's what she was working on. Makes you wonder about Diana, too.
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Post by cnote on Sept 29, 2023 17:29:32 GMT
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Post by tonyhancock on Sept 29, 2023 20:11:15 GMT
Hmm, I'll say it again. There's a lot of good stuff which comes from America, but pretty much all the crap stuff we have here, started there, first. Same for most of Western Europe. England's England, France is France, Germany is Germany, Italy is Italy etc. They should reject US culture, and preserve what they are.
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Post by tonyhancock on Oct 4, 2023 14:31:30 GMT
Laurence Fox arrested over Ulez camera damage threat
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