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Post by cnote on Jun 11, 2023 21:38:28 GMT
In Nepal, colourism is a big factor in social status in that country. I wasn’t expecting to learn this but I instantly resonated with it because it’s a factor in every country the Europeans conquered.
Going back to the subject for the thread I would say the U.K. is no worse than many other countries in Europe.
I would also say our homelessness is much better than what we see in the USA.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 11, 2023 21:56:44 GMT
In Nepal, colourism is a big factor in social status in that country. I wasn’t expecting to learn this but I instantly resonated with it because it’s a factor in every country the Europeans conquered. Going back to the subject for the thread I would say the U.K. is no worse than many other countries in Europe. I would also say our homelessness is much better than what we see in the USA. I'm no expert but I understand it's the same in India, with their cast system. The lighter colored tend to be in the North. Similar, and again I'm far from an expert, but from what I can tell, the orientals seemed to give a lighter colour a higher status. Think painting their faces white. Skin bleaching goes on now. Michael Jackson seemed to have a bash. I'm not convinced about the accusations aimed at him, by the way. Especially the latter ones. My guess would be, only a guess, this indicated they weren't always working out in the sun, like the lower classes, and my further guess would be, it wasn't for their admiration for their European overlords. Especially in Japan, when they didn't have any. Actually, much the same in Europe. Many European women used to whiten up their faces, much like their Chinese / Japanese counterparts. Silly fuckers. I think it was toxic. Actually, if not red, I think the ancient Egyptians did the same thing. I'd have to check. My view is, for all practical purposes, Western European countries are dominions of the USA. So no. No worse than many other European countries. I agree with your homelessness statement too, from what I can tell. Still, where the US leads, Western Europe follows.
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Post by cnote on Jun 11, 2023 22:31:38 GMT
On Friday at work we were talking about North America and how the citizens in Canada and USA, are happy with only two weeks paid holiday a year.
Apparently the citizens are not happy whatsoever but there’s nothing they can do about it. The USA have the least amount of protection when it comes to employment law.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 11, 2023 23:04:09 GMT
On Friday at work we were talking about North America and how the citizens in Canada and USA, are happy with only two weeks paid holiday a year. Apparently the citizens are not happy whatsoever but there’s nothing they can do about it. The USA have the least amount of protection when it comes to employment law. Well I don't think they'd be able to vote their way out of it. I think their best bet is secession, with Texas having the best chance. If they can't pull it off, I don't think any state can. Sigh, I've said it over and over. There is no way Biden is calling the shots. He'd get lost in his own house. You wouldn't trust him with lunch money, let alone the world's biggest economy, military etc. Anyone who thinks he's in charge, can stop reading, now. Now for anyone with half a brain, you have to ask yourself 'Is he the first puppet ?' Piss take in my view. A show of power, by those who have power. The answer is probably no. He isn't the first puppet. Far from it. Trump may or may not have assumed he would have power, but if he did, he soon learned differently. It's no different here. Elites can only be replaced by other elites. This has always been the case. As the Russians found out in 1917. Throughout history, the idea that those (truly) in power, would ask the ruled whether they'd like alternative rulers, and gladly move aside if they said yes, and hope their replacements would do likewise, is gut splittingly laughable. In my heart I'm libertarian. But much like the offside rule, it can only work if everyone else is on the same page. If everyone else, on your side, and the opposing side, plays by the same rules. The reality is, you have to pick your poison.
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Post by cnote on Jun 12, 2023 5:32:40 GMT
Valid points made. On the whole though I still like living in the U.K. especially when I compare it to other first world countries.
Just wish we could chart our own path in the world without trying to tag on to the coat tails of America.
U.K. has had opportunities to exercise its soft power in every country it’s occupied. That gives it an edge over most imo.
Sadly we’ve followed the lead of the cia and it’s lost us the chance to build up closer relationships with the leaders of India and China for example.
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Post by Sammy Wren on Jun 12, 2023 7:26:29 GMT
I'm enjoying this thread. Watched something the other day regarding money movement and Britain still maintains a place on the world stage as basically a money laundering service through it's old colonies, mainly the Caribbean.
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Post by cnote on Jun 12, 2023 10:13:56 GMT
There’s a few videos on the subject of Britain’s laundering activities. Once you go down that rabbit hole you learn how dirty the game is.
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Post by stevo on Jun 12, 2023 13:57:02 GMT
Well I don't want to spend the time going into details, not with someone who isn't interested from an enthusiastic standpoint, but basically, change everything. Simplify and strengthen the law. Punishments to fit the crimes, including corporal and capital punishments. New rules for the police. Keep out of foreign wars None of this woke shit for the armed forces Promote Britishness and free thought in schools. None of this trans shit, and Gretta is a saint Bin foreign aid. Bin climate bollocks. And bin being culturally sensitive (bending over for) minority groups. Completely overhaul the welfare system & the NHS Remove the illegal immigrants and physically prevent any more coming here (not that they would) New monetary & tax systems Defend our waters, and any other British interest. No to a EU army and NATO Tell the European Court of Human Rights to suck a cock Enforce moral standards, so that's channel 4 gone. Reduce the civil service But probably the first thing I'd do, personally and live on TV, is hang most of Westminster. Full house in facist bingo. You never fail to disappoint Tone. It just needed one of your special videos and it would have been complete Bollocks are they fascist comments. I think the majority of the country would go along with Tone.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 13:59:27 GMT
Valid points made. On the whole though I still like living in the U.K. especially when I compare it to other first world countries. Just wish we could chart our own path in the world without trying to tag on to the coat tails of America. U.K. has had opportunities to exercise its soft power in every country it’s occupied. That gives it an edge over most imo. Sadly we’ve followed the lead of the cia and it’s lost us the chance to build up closer relationships with the leaders of India and China for example. Oh yes. England all the way. It's just that it's changed so much. The CIA aren't our friends, or the American people's friend. The power in America wanted shot of the Empire, and after two self destructive, pointless wars, that's what happened. The Commonwealth could have been better than it is, but our darling leaders decided to bin them off in favour of Europe.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 14:04:21 GMT
I'm enjoying this thread. Watched something the other day regarding money movement and Britain still maintains a place on the world stage as basically a money laundering service through it's old colonies, mainly the Caribbean. Yes I believe that's right. Arguably the biggest financial hub. The City is autonomous. Much like the Vatican. Things seem to be changing, though. I dunno if you've read the Ukraine thread, but it's looking a distinct possibility that there will be a new financial system.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 14:13:16 GMT
Full house in facist bingo. You never fail to disappoint Tone. It just needed one of your special videos and it would have been complete Bollocks are they fascist comments. I think the majority of the country would go along with Tone. Aw, thanks man. I expect they would to, but won't get the chance. You see the thing is, if democracy isn't a sham, as I believe, then where we are as a country. Everything that's happened, all the changes, everything I moan about, and many I don't moan about for the sake of the forum. Basically everything that's going on now, and the disaster of the last few years, is a result of the cumulative choices of the majority of the British people. Does that sound right ? Did we want any of this shit ? Though what I will say is, if you don't like the hotels filling up with people we could do without, and you vote for mainstream parties, then you are assisting them to open the borders.
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 14:27:59 GMT
Bollocks are they fascist comments. I think the majority of the country would go along with Tone. Aw, thanks man. I expect they would to, but won't get the chance. You see the thing is, if democracy isn't a sham, as I believe, then where we are as a country. Everything that's happened, all the changes, everything I moan about, and many I don't moan about for the sake of the forum. Basically everything that's going on now, and the disaster of the last few years, is a result of the cumulative choices of the majority of the British people. Does that sound right ? Did we want any of this shit ? Though what I will say is, if you don't like the hotels filling up with people we could do without, and you vote for mainstream parties, then you are assisting them to open the borders. What party should a person vote for then if they dont want that sort of thing?
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 15:08:55 GMT
Aw, thanks man. I expect they would to, but won't get the chance. You see the thing is, if democracy isn't a sham, as I believe, then where we are as a country. Everything that's happened, all the changes, everything I moan about, and many I don't moan about for the sake of the forum. Basically everything that's going on now, and the disaster of the last few years, is a result of the cumulative choices of the majority of the British people. Does that sound right ? Did we want any of this shit ? Though what I will say is, if you don't like the hotels filling up with people we could do without, and you vote for mainstream parties, then you are assisting them to open the borders. What party should a person vote for then if they dont want that sort of thing? I must say you're very interested in my opinions. Quite flattering really. I've told you. If you really must vote, then Heritage Party. That's the black guy you don't like, and take offence to his wallpaper and Union Flag.
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Post by gammo on Jun 12, 2023 15:30:45 GMT
If you think our country is bad then you need to look at the International stage. I just watched an American court video where this guy went on a rampage at a school killing 6 kids and wounding another 4. He comes to court wearing a T-shirt with the word KILLER written on it. He says to a relative of one of victims, "This is the finger I used to pull the trigger on your son. I now use it to masturbate with". I think he got 140 years jail but it didn't look like he gave a shit when the sentence was passed. He's clearly bad shit crazy, but at least he didn't get off with 'mental problems'. Let's see how cocky he is in 140 years time, and he's had to materbate so much his cock is like a gnarled twigg I think he'll quickly find out that as soon as he's in prison, it won't be his cock to play with 🫣
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Post by gammo on Jun 12, 2023 15:48:42 GMT
Something needs to change whether that's national service or something similar.....but even that will be bypassed by the mega rich (mommy & daddy won't want beloved Farquar to be slumming it in the barracks with commoners).
Add in why should those kids that have grown up following the rules and using manners, be now subjected to life with some ignorant chunts.
So....what about a new form of punishment using a type of borstal? Under 18, if you commit an offence that would normally warrant a slapped wrist, you'd go to an army type barracks run by some of the meanest ex military/police sergeants who will 'teach you' you place in society.
Upon sentencing, you go down to the van which will be transporting you to your new home for the next month whilst Mommy & Daddy are told that your child will be 'looked after' however they will not be contactable for the next 4 weeks. During g that time they will learn EXACTLY what discipline is all about. Those next 4 weeks of being shouted at will either break the boy/girl or make the man/woman. They won't have the opportunity to learn from seasoned prisoners so they won't come out of a prison knowing more about commiting crimes than they did going in. They will come out with a possibility of wanting to progress further in life but you can bet they won't come out, saying to their shitty little mates 'yeah it was okay.'
We need to break the cycle because, at the minute, all we are doing is oiling the cogs. ☹️☹️
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Post by jazzzy786 on Jun 12, 2023 15:57:26 GMT
While I agree with a lot of what you've written Tone all government needs oversight and not being subject to the court of human rights probably puts us under the rule of a dictatorship.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 16:07:07 GMT
Something needs to change whether that's national service or something similar.....but even that will be bypassed by the mega rich (mommy & daddy won't want beloved Farquar to be slumming it in the barracks with commoners). Add in why should those kids that have grown up following the rules and using manners, be now subjected to life with some ignorant chunts. So....what about a new form of punishment using a type of borstal? Under 18, if you commit an offence that would normally warrant a slapped wrist, you'd go to an army type barracks run by some of the meanest ex military/police sergeants who will 'teach you' you place in society. Upon sentencing, you go down to the van which will be transporting you to your new home for the next month whilst Mommy & Daddy are told that your child will be 'looked after' however they will not be contactable for the next 4 weeks. During g that time they will learn EXACTLY what discipline is all about. Those next 4 weeks of being shouted at will either break the boy/girl or make the man/woman. They won't have the opportunity to learn from seasoned prisoners so they won't come out of a prison knowing more about commiting crimes than they did going in. They will come out with a possibility of wanting to progress further in life but you can bet they won't come out, saying to their shitty little mates 'yeah it was okay.' We need to break the cycle because, at the minute, all we are doing is oiling the cogs. ☹️☹️ Well something has to be done differently in order to bring about change. Change that most of us seem to want. So yeah, worth a try. Oiling the cogs is putting it mildly. You may have heard of Yuri Bezmenov, and his warning about the commies four stages. Demoralisation being the first. Sounds right. We are demoralised, and our government seems bent on making it that way. It seems that a lot of crimes don't really matter to the government, or even the government seems in favour. Burglaries, car and store theft, the cops don't seem interested. Protesting the things the government wants to push, the police will actively help, or just step aside. Just stop oil, BLM. The government wants people shopping online. Why would they protect shops. The government seems only interested in crimes which affect them, in which case the cops are all over it.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Jun 12, 2023 16:10:23 GMT
Something needs to change whether that's national service or something similar.....but even that will be bypassed by the mega rich (mommy & daddy won't want beloved Farquar to be slumming it in the barracks with commoners). Add in why should those kids that have grown up following the rules and using manners, be now subjected to life with some ignorant chunts. So....what about a new form of punishment using a type of borstal? Under 18, if you commit an offence that would normally warrant a slapped wrist, you'd go to an army type barracks run by some of the meanest ex military/police sergeants who will 'teach you' you place in society. Upon sentencing, you go down to the van which will be transporting you to your new home for the next month whilst Mommy & Daddy are told that your child will be 'looked after' however they will not be contactable for the next 4 weeks. During g that time they will learn EXACTLY what discipline is all about. Those next 4 weeks of being shouted at will either break the boy/girl or make the man/woman. They won't have the opportunity to learn from seasoned prisoners so they won't come out of a prison knowing more about commiting crimes than they did going in. They will come out with a possibility of wanting to progress further in life but you can bet they won't come out, saying to their shitty little mates 'yeah it was okay.' We need to break the cycle because, at the minute, all we are doing is oiling the cogs. ☹️☹️ Borstal and the cane are unlikely to come back and the kids know they can get away with just about anything because as a society we have taken away all deterrents. The worst aspect is taking away the parent's right to discipline his own with teachers reporting parents to social services because they smacked their kids. Personally I'd bring the stocks back.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 16:25:45 GMT
While I agree with a lot of what you've written Tone all government needs oversight and not being subject to the court of human rights probably puts us under the rule of a dictatorship. I've tried to explain a few times, including above. We are already in a dictatorship. Dictatorships can either be good, bad or some of both. I'm in no doubt our opinions matter very little, and we don't get a say on the important stuff. He who makes exceptions to the law, is sovereign. He who interprets the law is sovereign. Rulers do not tolerate separation of powers. You might be wondering who then is sovereign - The UCHR, or the government. I'd say neither. I'd say the people I've listed many times before. A government of the people, by the people, for the people. Come on. It isn't, is it. Our current highest profile manager. The pm. A true Brit at heart ? I fully expect that once his work is done, he'll get a zero work, part time job in some financial establishment. I imagine he'll be off somewhere else, India, California, somewhere; and he won't give the UK a second thought, or the Conservatives for that matter. He might get a seat in the House of Lords, but I doubt he'd sit in it much. Maybe if the WEF tell him he's gotta vote.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 16:26:58 GMT
Something needs to change whether that's national service or something similar.....but even that will be bypassed by the mega rich (mommy & daddy won't want beloved Farquar to be slumming it in the barracks with commoners). Add in why should those kids that have grown up following the rules and using manners, be now subjected to life with some ignorant chunts. So....what about a new form of punishment using a type of borstal? Under 18, if you commit an offence that would normally warrant a slapped wrist, you'd go to an army type barracks run by some of the meanest ex military/police sergeants who will 'teach you' you place in society. Upon sentencing, you go down to the van which will be transporting you to your new home for the next month whilst Mommy & Daddy are told that your child will be 'looked after' however they will not be contactable for the next 4 weeks. During g that time they will learn EXACTLY what discipline is all about. Those next 4 weeks of being shouted at will either break the boy/girl or make the man/woman. They won't have the opportunity to learn from seasoned prisoners so they won't come out of a prison knowing more about commiting crimes than they did going in. They will come out with a possibility of wanting to progress further in life but you can bet they won't come out, saying to their shitty little mates 'yeah it was okay.' We need to break the cycle because, at the minute, all we are doing is oiling the cogs. ☹️☹️ Borstal and the cane are unlikely to come back and the kids know they can get away with just about anything because as a society we have taken away all deterrents. The worst aspect is taking away the parent's right to discipline his own with teachers reporting parents to social services because they smacked their kids. Personally I'd bring the stocks back. Now we're getting somewhere
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 16:40:19 GMT
What party should a person vote for then if they dont want that sort of thing? I must say you're very interested in my opinions. Quite flattering really. I've told you. If you really must vote, then Heritage Party. That's the black guy you don't like, and take offence to his wallpaper and Union Flag. Ah yes the heritage party……can you point me in the direction of their fully coated manifesto? I’d be delighted to read it As for disliking someone or taking offence to their wallpaper - not at all. I just look for more credibility in a leader than some failed ex UKIPer sitting in his front room with a Union Jack churning out YouTube videos. But if you can show me their fully costed out manifesto that would be brilliant
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 16:43:55 GMT
Something needs to change whether that's national service or something similar.....but even that will be bypassed by the mega rich (mommy & daddy won't want beloved Farquar to be slumming it in the barracks with commoners). Add in why should those kids that have grown up following the rules and using manners, be now subjected to life with some ignorant chunts. So....what about a new form of punishment using a type of borstal? Under 18, if you commit an offence that would normally warrant a slapped wrist, you'd go to an army type barracks run by some of the meanest ex military/police sergeants who will 'teach you' you place in society. Upon sentencing, you go down to the van which will be transporting you to your new home for the next month whilst Mommy & Daddy are told that your child will be 'looked after' however they will not be contactable for the next 4 weeks. During g that time they will learn EXACTLY what discipline is all about. Those next 4 weeks of being shouted at will either break the boy/girl or make the man/woman. They won't have the opportunity to learn from seasoned prisoners so they won't come out of a prison knowing more about commiting crimes than they did going in. They will come out with a possibility of wanting to progress further in life but you can bet they won't come out, saying to their shitty little mates 'yeah it was okay.' We need to break the cycle because, at the minute, all we are doing is oiling the cogs. ☹️☹️ Surely funding the police so you have more officers on the beat and patrolling neighbourhoods would be a start What about properly dealing with the court backlogs and the under funding of the justice system to get people into court and through trials quicker What would you do about building more prisons, rehabilitation programmes and even your Borstal style detention facilities? Who’s funding those? Careful chaos all this sounds expensive…assume you’re happy for your taxes to rise as well in Tony’s brave new world ?
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 17:06:06 GMT
I must say you're very interested in my opinions. Quite flattering really. I've told you. If you really must vote, then Heritage Party. That's the black guy you don't like, and take offence to his wallpaper and Union Flag. Ah yes the heritage party……can you point me in the direction of their fully coated manifesto? I’d be delighted to read it As for disliking someone or taking offence to their wallpaper - not at all. I just look for more credibility in a leader than some failed ex UKIPer sitting in his front room with a Union Jack churning out YouTube videos. But if you can show me their fully costed out manifesto that would be brilliant Your latest question was "What party should a person vote for then if they dont want that sort of thing?" You do seem to be very interested in my thoughts. Good for you. I don't think any party brings out a fully costed manifesto at this stage (and it's usually bollocks anyway), Labour don't seem to have one at all. So, now you have your answer, if they do produce a fully costed manifesto, you'll be happy to go ahead with them, as you're so keen to know which party would have open borders ? The manifesto can be found here heritageparty.org/manifesto/Your comments about his wallpaper can be found here wewilljourneyon.proboards.com/thread/7241/national-treasure?page=2and here wewilljourneyon.proboards.com/thread/7227/tens-thousands-government-murdersIf your keen on parties who can get the finances right, I assume you'll be giving these idiots a wide birth ?
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 17:09:54 GMT
Something needs to change whether that's national service or something similar.....but even that will be bypassed by the mega rich (mommy & daddy won't want beloved Farquar to be slumming it in the barracks with commoners). Add in why should those kids that have grown up following the rules and using manners, be now subjected to life with some ignorant chunts. So....what about a new form of punishment using a type of borstal? Under 18, if you commit an offence that would normally warrant a slapped wrist, you'd go to an army type barracks run by some of the meanest ex military/police sergeants who will 'teach you' you place in society. Upon sentencing, you go down to the van which will be transporting you to your new home for the next month whilst Mommy & Daddy are told that your child will be 'looked after' however they will not be contactable for the next 4 weeks. During g that time they will learn EXACTLY what discipline is all about. Those next 4 weeks of being shouted at will either break the boy/girl or make the man/woman. They won't have the opportunity to learn from seasoned prisoners so they won't come out of a prison knowing more about commiting crimes than they did going in. They will come out with a possibility of wanting to progress further in life but you can bet they won't come out, saying to their shitty little mates 'yeah it was okay.' We need to break the cycle because, at the minute, all we are doing is oiling the cogs. ☹️☹️ Surely funding the police so you have more officers on the beat and patrolling neighbourhoods would be a start What about properly dealing with the court backlogs and the under funding of the justice system to get people into court and through trials quicker What would you do about building more prisons, rehabilitation programmes and even your Borstal style detention facilities? Who’s funding those? Careful chaos all this sounds expensive…assume you’re happy for your taxes to rise as well in Tony’s brave new world ? You asked, hypothetically, what I would do as (a proper) king. I'm pretty sure, there would be precious little crime once I started showing these wankers what the consequences would be.
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 17:12:40 GMT
Ah ok so they don’t have any information about how they’d fund that manifesto….so you can criticise Labour for not doing their sums right but not a bloke on YouTube in his living room
Considering the heritage website says they’ve updated it over the last 4 years you’d think they’d have some idea how they’d fund all that wishful patriotic thinking
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 17:14:14 GMT
Surely funding the police so you have more officers on the beat and patrolling neighbourhoods would be a start What about properly dealing with the court backlogs and the under funding of the justice system to get people into court and through trials quicker What would you do about building more prisons, rehabilitation programmes and even your Borstal style detention facilities? Who’s funding those? Careful chaos all this sounds expensive…assume you’re happy for your taxes to rise as well in Tony’s brave new world ? You asked, hypothetically, what I would do as (a proper) king. I'm pretty sure, there would be precious little crime once I started showing these wankers what the consequences would be. Actually I was responding to Gammo.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 17:17:21 GMT
Getting the figures right is key
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Post by tonyhancock on Jun 12, 2023 17:20:51 GMT
Ah ok so they don’t have any information about how they’d fund that manifesto….so you can criticise Labour for not doing their sums right but not a bloke on YouTube in his living room Considering the heritage website says they’ve updated it over the last 4 years you’d think they’d have some idea how they’d fund all that wishful patriotic thinking I'm going to go out on a limb here. I don't think you're interested in a party who would stop the boats, at all.
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 17:24:16 GMT
Fwiw I agree that Politicians who can’t get their numbers right should be criticized and scrutinized.
I assume you would be demanding the YouTube Ukipper to get his numbers bang on?
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Post by Professor Frink on Jun 12, 2023 17:26:49 GMT
Ah ok so they don’t have any information about how they’d fund that manifesto….so you can criticise Labour for not doing their sums right but not a bloke on YouTube in his living room Considering the heritage website says they’ve updated it over the last 4 years you’d think they’d have some idea how they’d fund all that wishful patriotic thinking I'm going to go out on a limb here. I don't think you're interested in a party who would stop the boats, at all. Why not? Actually I think with the impacts of climate change over the next couple of decades the displacement of huge numbers of people is going to be one of the globes biggest challenges Having credible global solutions to this is important .
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