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Post by kevinuk81 on Feb 1, 2024 20:05:18 GMT
Goalkeeper Alex Runarsson has left Arsenal by mutual consent, played for Cardiff in first half of the season. Maybe he can join us, wouldn't be a fee involved.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 20:05:34 GMT
Wilford saying we are done although you never know on deadline day Etheridge is dogshit the only thing he has caught recently is Covid. If he is in for more than 2 games our. Chances of relegation increase.
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 20:07:10 GMT
Yeah, I can't link but I can copy n paste
Looks like @bcfc have done all the business they’re going to in this window, barring an unexpected turn of events. Tony Mowbray was very positive about the three he has brought in, and knew that the budget was going to be tight for now.
As said re Mwbray saying what he said it makes little sense, we've literally just announced new sponsorship likely to result in an extra 5 million or so in revenue this season. In order for Wilford and Mowbray's comments to make sense you'd have to be of the opinion that without the new sponsorhip we were on course to lose several mllion this season, I don't believe that. We tried buying a striker for 1.3 million at the end of the last window, Pritchard, Dozzell aand Seng-Ho must be earning absolutely mllions.
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 20:09:38 GMT
BTW I'm not saying it's a ruse and we'll definitely be signing someone, we may well not, I'm just saying don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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Post by Professor Frink on Feb 1, 2024 20:33:42 GMT
Yeah, I can't link but I can copy n paste
Looks like @bcfc have done all the business they’re going to in this window, barring an unexpected turn of events. Tony Mowbray was very positive about the three he has brought in, and knew that the budget was going to be tight for now.
As said re Mwbray saying what he said it makes little sense, we've literally just announced new sponsorship likely to result in an extra 5 million or so in revenue this season. In order for Wilford and Mowbray's comments to make sense you'd have to be of the opinion that without the new sponsorhip we were on course to lose several mllion this season, I don't believe that. We tried buying a striker for 1.3 million at the end of the last window, Pritchard, Dozzell aand Seng-Ho must be earning absolutely mllions.
fair challenge. I’d have liked to see a striker as think Burke and hogan are pointless I think it’s as simple as they keeping their powder dry and using that FFP headroom in the summer. With a rolling 3 year view they may as well use it wisely than waste it on a panic loan
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Post by Dirty White Slip-on on Feb 1, 2024 20:35:55 GMT
Benson - Burnley
Middlesboro not Blues
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 20:42:44 GMT
Yes the keeping the powder dry resoning is a commonly held one and may be true but I'd say if you're going to have the wherewithal if desired to spend 25 million plus in the Summer, couldn't you have spared a couple of hundred grand for wages for a loan striker or buying one for half a mill?
Millwall just like us aren't going up or down but got Obafemi in. Now as far as I'm aware they're not going to be having a big warchest come the Summer, isn't it more incumbent for a club in their position to 'keep their powder dry'?
Blackburn have apparently been chasing several strikers, unsuccesfully admittedly, but again shouldn't they keep their powder dry since they're not going up or down?
Ditto Stoke.
As said it's a commonly held view, I'm just not quite as sold on it tbh and having 3 clubs in and around us without the upcoming warchest in the Summer wwho regardless are pushing now despite their seasons almost certainly likely to peter out quietly suggests that the ratonal is not a widely held one by other clubs either.
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Post by TILTON on Feb 1, 2024 20:48:04 GMT
I think the keeper issue can be with a remedy as if Ruddy hamstring then gets worse by dumping Jeacock the only senior keeper we have is Etheridge and if he was to get injured we are entitled to an emergency loan.
I'm guessing is a tweak and not sure but with keepers it's easier to manage as they ain't sprinting all the time like an outfield player.
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Post by Dirty White Slip-on on Feb 1, 2024 20:53:26 GMT
Age a concern with Ruddy, hamstrings at that age could easily tweak on return, Etheridge could in for a fair few matches
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 20:53:40 GMT
I think the keeper issue can be with a remedy as if Ruddy hamstring then gets worse by dumping Jeacock the only senior keeper we have is Etheridge and if he was to get injured we are entitled to an emergency loan. I'm guessing is a tweak and not sure but with keepers it's easier to manage as they ain't sprinting all the time like an outfield player. Agreed on both points.
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Post by honkybluenose on Feb 1, 2024 20:58:26 GMT
Isn’t an emergency loan only allowed if you have no fit senior keepers. Thought Etheridge is fit?
No, it's if you don't have TWO available experienced keepers. Experienced defined as so many first team appearances, I can't remember the exact number but we'd have nobody else that qualifies so it's moot.
Not sure this is correct. My understanding is that you have to have no experienced keeper available to make an emergency loan and an experienced keeper is a keeper with 5 or more first team appearances. I may of course be wrong.
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Post by gammo on Feb 1, 2024 21:00:50 GMT
Stick Dixon on the bench instead of Burke - a desperation substitute could work out to be a master stroke of a move. Better to see what you might have than to play someone that is clearly going through the motions of heading back to Germany.
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 21:02:25 GMT
No, it's if you don't have TWO available experienced keepers. Experienced defined as so many first team appearances, I can't remember the exact number but we'd have nobody else that qualifies so it's moot.
Not sure this is correct. My understanding is that you have to have no experienced keeper available to make an emergency loan and an experienced keeper is a keeper with 5 or more first team appearances. I may of course be wrong.
I'm 100% sure
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Post by Professor Frink on Feb 1, 2024 21:05:10 GMT
Yes the keeping the powder dry resoning is a commonly held one and may be true but I'd say if you're going to have the wherewithal if desired to spend 25 million plus in the Summer, couldn't you have spared a couple of hundred grand for wages for a loan striker or buying one for half a mill?
Millwall just like us aren't going up or down but got Obafemi in. Now as far as I'm aware they're not going to be having a big warchest come the Summer, isn't it more incumbent for a club in their position to 'keep their powder dry'?
Blackburn have apparently been chasing several strikers, unsuccesfully admittedly, but again shouldn't they keep their powder dry since they're not going up or down?
Ditto Stoke.
As said it's a commonly held view, I'm just not quite as sold on it tbh and having 3 clubs in and around us without the upcoming warchest in the Summer wwho regardless are pushing now despite their seasons almost certainly likely to peter out quietly suggests that the ratonal is not a widely held one by other clubs either.
Blackburn I think we’re in the market as it looked like Gallagher was off. I’ll be honest I’m not really sure why clubs that are likely going to finish middle of the pack bother with Jan loans or transfers. Don’t get me wrong tho. I’m surprised we haven’t looked for a striker - especially as our options are Burke or hogan
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 21:10:20 GMT
Yeah that's something else, Millwall havee Bradhaw and Nisbett not to mention their attacking middfielder Fleming, their need is much less than ours. Stoke can understand as none of theirs are firing. Blackburn of course have Szmodics who's not really a striker but carries the goalscoring burden. They are btw back in for the American striker they were previously in for even though it seems Gallagher is staying put.
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Post by Professor Frink on Feb 1, 2024 21:16:28 GMT
You only have to hope that the reason is mowbray doesn’t fancy any of the options on offer and is happy to go with whatever have
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Post by bignumbernine on Feb 1, 2024 21:28:03 GMT
If Stansfield gets injured we are in trouble. Why put ourselves in a position where one injury could jeopardise our season when the new owners are hell bent on success.
Just get someone in ffs. We didn’t need two centre mids this window yet here we are.
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 21:37:08 GMT
You only have to hope that the reason is mowbray doesn’t fancy any of the options on offer and is happy to go with whatever have
Possibly, but there's been a whole month not just today, there's the whole world, not just this country and I find it hard to believe something suitable could not have been found should the will to do so have been there.
As an example QPR picking up Michael Frey seems like really good business. Scored goals all over Europe in top divisions like Germany, France and Belgium.
Baggies taken a prospect from a prem U-21 team whch seems to have been a very unexplored area this window by championship clubs.
It seems to me as you say for better or worse the decision was made some days ago not to bother. I think that's why the Pritchard signing was held back, As I said the other day, a stunt for the fans and to my cynical eye to lessen the impact of not doing anything else.
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Post by bluescharlie on Feb 1, 2024 21:55:23 GMT
Mowbray has a lot of experience with a false 9. We’ve got players who could fill that role if need be, hence maybe why there’s been less immediate need for an out and out striker
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Post by bubba on Feb 1, 2024 22:04:30 GMT
Mowbray has a lot of experience with a false 9. We’ve got players who could fill that role if need be, hence maybe why there’s been less immediate need for an out and out striker
This is true, but he spent much of last season desperately asking for another striker as he lost one to injury and another recalled by his parent club. Yes he has experience of it but not by choice and they signed 3 last Summer, I'd also say they had more and better false 9 options than we do.
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Post by bertieauld on Feb 1, 2024 22:18:10 GMT
In mogga I trust Kro
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Post by bluescharlie on Feb 1, 2024 23:02:45 GMT
Window now over
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Post by expatjohn on Feb 2, 2024 1:15:21 GMT
Mowbray said
I don’t think we’ve got any outgoings. To bring players in I think we need to have an outgoing or two. Even though we are encouraging some outgoings, it doesn’t look like they’re going to happen.
“You can’t force people out of a football club. In my mind these are professional footballers doing their job. You can potentially try to coax them into taking a move that might give them an extra year or two on their contract. But if they don’t want to go, and they don’t see that as an option for them, then you can’t force them out. I don’t think there will be any
Well let's cross our fingers nothing happens to our on loan non striker Jay Stansfield then cus
Juke is not able to play more than about 15 minutes Hogan has retired Burke is running from trap 4 in the 6.20 on Monmore T.Roberts looks miles off being able to lead the line
Apparently we're trying for Poveda from Leeds, not really a fan of that either tbh.
You may, or may not know, that trap 4 in greyhound racing is known as 'the coffin'. Suits him!
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Post by honkybluenose on Feb 2, 2024 5:19:22 GMT
Not sure this is correct. My understanding is that you have to have no experienced keeper available to make an emergency loan and an experienced keeper is a keeper with 5 or more first team appearances. I may of course be wrong.
I'm 100% sure
According to everything I have read on this you are 100% wrong. You are only allowed an emergency loan if you have no experienced keeper available.
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Post by stevo on Feb 2, 2024 5:58:49 GMT
I’ve just looked at it and read exactly what bubba said. A pro keeper has to have made 5 appearances otherwise you can bring in an emergency replacement.
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Post by Professor Frink on Feb 2, 2024 6:06:11 GMT
Alex dicken references the emergency keeper rule in his transfer window summary last night
BirminghamLive has been told the injury isn’t serious but it has worried Blues enough to create room for an emergency loan signing in the event that his understudy Etheridge is struck down too. Releasing Zach Jeacock from his contract is significant.
In the event of an injury to Etheridge, the EFL would have forced Mowbray to play Jeacock because he has prior first team experience. Jeacock - who spent the first half of this season on loan at National League North side Gloucester City - made four appearances in the Championship for Blues, the last of which resulted in a 6-1 defeat to Blackpool in April 2022. Bradley Mayo, the 19-year-old goalkeeper expected to sit on Blues’ bench in Ruddy’s absence, has no prior EFL experience meaning that Mowbray will be allowed to make an emergency loan signing if Etheridge sustains an injury.”
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Post by honkybluenose on Feb 2, 2024 6:14:23 GMT
I’ve just looked at it and read exactly what bubba said. A pro keeper has to have made 5 appearances otherwise you can bring in an emergency replacement. Yes but Bubba is saying you can have an emergency loan if you don’t have 2 keepers available. My reading is that it is if you don’t have one. In other words Bubba is saying we can bring one in now but my understanding is that Etheridge would need to get injured too.
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Post by Professor Frink on Feb 2, 2024 10:06:22 GMT
I’ve just looked at it and read exactly what bubba said. A pro keeper has to have made 5 appearances otherwise you can bring in an emergency replacement. Yes but Bubba is saying you can have an emergency loan if you don’t have 2 keepers available. My reading is that it is if you don’t have one. In other words Bubba is saying we can bring one in now but my understanding is that Etheridge would need to get injured too. That is correct. If they are confident Ruddy is 3-4 weeks max, then there is little point bringing in another keeper. If Etheridge gets injured vs the baggies they can go out and get one
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Post by bubba on Feb 2, 2024 11:30:20 GMT
I’ve just looked at it and read exactly what bubba said. A pro keeper has to have made 5 appearances otherwise you can bring in an emergency replacement. Yes but Bubba is saying you can have an emergency loan if you don’t have 2 keepers available. My reading is that it is if you don’t have one. In other words Bubba is saying we can bring one in now but my understanding is that Etheridge would need to get injured too.
I saw the Dicken piece last night and spent 45 minutes googling because I knew I was right. At last I thought I knew I wwas right.
It turns out I was right in that it USED to be the case. Apparently the rules got changed in 2016 but prior to that clubs could sign keepers on emergency loans even if they still had a fit and available experienced keeper. So there you go, I was wrong but that's why.
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Post by honkybluenose on Feb 2, 2024 11:41:03 GMT
Yes but Bubba is saying you can have an emergency loan if you don’t have 2 keepers available. My reading is that it is if you don’t have one. In other words Bubba is saying we can bring one in now but my understanding is that Etheridge would need to get injured too.
I saw the Dicken piece last night and spent 45 minutes googling because I knew I was right. At last I thought I knew I wwas right.
It turns out I was right in that it USED to be the case. Apparently the rules got changed in 2016 but prior to that clubs could sign keepers on emergency loans even if they still had a fit and available experienced keeper. So there you go, I was wrong but that's why.
Too long a memory that’s your problem. Why can’t you be more like the rest of us and become a little more forgetful !
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