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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2024 17:23:33 GMT
Quite general in nature but there was one little paragraph towards the end whiched piqued my interest, Brian writes,
There might be two or three newcomers, with wing positions an area of interest for Blues, but Mowbray will look for most of his solutions from within the squad. Until the summer when it could be a lot of fun.
Somebody on here the other day suggested a winger and I gently pointed out we have a multitude of players that can play on the wing, Dembele, Anderson, T.Roberts, Bacuna, Stansfield, Miyoshi, Donovan and even in the most dire of emergencies Ollie 'Run Forest Run' Burke. Well in view of Dick's comment here and let's be honest, he's likely heard something to even mention it over I dunno, say a striker ffs, or even a CB for those of us who would only touch one of ours using a twig, then perhaps I owe that someone an apology.
A winger, you heard it here first, or read it on the bm via here, make of that what you will.
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Post by bluescharlie on Jan 10, 2024 17:44:27 GMT
I thought we needed an additional winger in the summer but it wasn’t a priority then or now. We have options there but do lack a more natural right winger who isn’t oli burke or is 17
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Post by dutchblue on Jan 10, 2024 17:52:37 GMT
Mowbray’s love of wingplay is legendary. So no surprises really. I personally feel our priorities right now are elsewhere, i.e. the spine of the team. Regarding Burke, ™ might get something out of him. Burke’s issues are all in his head.
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2024 18:18:04 GMT
Another thing in that small paragraph,
There might be two or three newcomers, with wing positions an area of interest for Blues, but Mowbray will look for most of his solutions from within the squad. Until the summer when it could be a lot of fun.
Have seen this repeated a lot on sha today that people would rather wait until the Summer to spend on players, I have two issues with this mentality.
1) Come the Summer, a blues that finished the previous season screaming up the table into 8th would be more attractive to potential targets than one which meandered up to a cosy 14th and better off though we will be we're hardly going to be blowing the division away considering 3 relegated clubs and others in receipt of parachute payments.
2) With the way transfer fees are accounted for in and out, should we end up selling JJ and NOT then go on a decent spending spree, we will have lost a year of the benefit of that positive injection to the P&S total. Come the subsequent years, yes those yearly instalments on the fee won't be offset as in the first year, but come the 26/27 season, whatever JJ fee was received would drop out of the calculations altogether anyway. To a certain degree, the way the P&S accounting works, if you don't use it you lose it and if we sold JJ it's unlikely we'd use all the potential purchasing power that sale could instantly provide meaning a large portion of it would still be applicable to offset purchases in the followng two years. Basically if we don't BUY players followng a JJ sale, then we may aswell not bother selling at all.
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2024 18:31:51 GMT
I thought we needed an additional winger in the summer but it wasn’t a priority then or now. We have options there but do lack a more natural right winger who isn’t oli burke or is 17 It's been Miyoshi's natural position for most of his career whilst T.Roberts and Hall not to mention Bacuna can all also play out there.
Be that as it may, I would assume (rightly or wrongly) that if indeed a winger is on the menu then yes the right side would seem more likely than the left which can claim even more players comfortable playing there.
Morgan Whittaker would be my first choice but since they only signed him in the Summer and have just lost both loanee attacking middfielders in Azaz and Cundle, think the chances of a January smash and grab are miniscule.
Tilts mentioned Poku the other day, he'd be a fine back up option. If we were looking at loans maybe Palace would be more agreeable to loaning out Rak Sakyi than in the Summer, but given Mowbrays comments re loan players and the likely fact he aint as good as the other two, at least for now, I'd target buying one of them instead.
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Post by gammo on Jan 10, 2024 19:17:27 GMT
As he's got a bit more bulk and height, would it be better for Burke to move into the middle just behind the front man but ahead of the midfield? You look at him and then compare him to Dembele and Myoshi and the difference is startling - he looks more of a Jukey than a Myoshi 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2024 19:34:53 GMT
As he's got a bit more bulk and height, would it be better for Burke to move into the middle just behind the front man but ahead of the midfield? You look at him and then compare him to Dembele and Myoshi and the difference is startling - he looks more of a Jukey than a Myoshi 🤷🏼♂️
Tbh I'd much rather he moved wider than more central. About 45 miles should do it.
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Post by jaystan on Jan 11, 2024 14:11:58 GMT
As he's got a bit more bulk and height, would it be better for Burke to move into the middle just behind the front man but ahead of the midfield? You look at him and then compare him to Dembele and Myoshi and the difference is startling - he looks more of a Jukey than a Myoshi 🤷🏼♂️
Tbh I'd much rather he moved wider than more central. About 45 miles should do it. FFS Bubba, harsh man pmsl
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Post by mark1875 on Jan 11, 2024 14:29:54 GMT
How he has made it has a professional footballer is beyond belief
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Post by bubba on Jan 15, 2024 21:53:38 GMT
Caishin at Derby is excellent, I'm personally less impressed by Bird. Brighton loanee Leonard at Northampton is coveted by several championship clubs and exactly what we should be targeting. Keeper I think there's actually a lot of options, permanent and on loan but not even certain we'll address now although think Ruddy's been questionable regardless of who the manager has been this season.
Have been watching Devante Cole (son of Andy) this morning and tbh think I may have previously underestimated him. Pacy, mobile and he can finish, bigger than his dad too. Been a real journeyman but watching him today looks like a real late bloomer (he's 28) and is putting it all together now. Let me put it this way, watching him I'd say if Mowbray had had him at Sunderland he'd still be manager there.
If JJ don't go don't know as we'll be doing much but for me I think address the spine of the team still because some of the issues Rooney had haven't gone away and spend money on permanent signings where possible because I just don't see us being at the head of the queue for the best available loan players.
Said to now be on the radar of Hull, Cardiff and Huddersfield, worthwhle considering as a cheap option imo as he's out of contract in 6 months.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 16, 2024 12:51:15 GMT
Hopefully after tonight we will start seeing some movement
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Post by bubba on Jan 16, 2024 18:01:50 GMT
Take with a huge pinch of salt but blues one of a dozen clubs linked with Macauley Longstaff. Very thin on detail and frankly not sure any truth in it, besides which not sure he's what we need plus of the alleged 12 clubs only 2 are from the championship including us, the rest lower div sides.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 16, 2024 18:34:11 GMT
Longstaff will follow his boss to Swansea.
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Post by gammo on Jan 16, 2024 18:44:32 GMT
Also being linked with Pritchard at Sunderland as he's out of contract in the summer - worth a cheeky bid?
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Post by blueshark on Jan 16, 2024 23:55:50 GMT
I like Pritchard - good player
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 17, 2024 9:30:54 GMT
Also being linked with Pritchard at Sunderland as he's out of contract in the summer - worth a cheeky bid? Wers the link with that? Would tak him tho.
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Post by gammo on Jan 17, 2024 15:44:31 GMT
Should we ve reading anything in Etheridge not making the squad last night?
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Post by bubba on Jan 17, 2024 15:46:08 GMT
According to Mogga he injured
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Post by bluescharlie on Jan 17, 2024 18:03:37 GMT
Telegraph have linked us today to Pritchard. Past with Mowbray but not sure i would go for him. I see him more as an attacking midfielder as well where we are already a bit cramped
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Post by bubba on Jan 17, 2024 20:11:35 GMT
Same here, like him but it's not a position we're short in and would add to the overload of players in those attcking positions behind the striker. In truth we have some decent players up there and from here on in if adding there, it should be on the basis of one going out and the player coming in being of an obvious and significant upgrade imo.
DEMBELE------------STANSFIELD-------------JJ---------------MIYOSHI
ANDERSON----------T.ROBERTS------------HALL-------------DONOVAN
and that's without putting Bacuna into the equation whilst we're only playing 3 in the places behind the striker, we don't need 9 or 10 players for those 3 spots.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 17, 2024 20:41:55 GMT
I don't see why we are in the market for another player up top that's not a striker.
I'd have a punt on Langstaff and if Beilik can suddenly fit into the back four then finding a central midfielder could mean that we only need 3 signings.
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 17, 2024 20:44:32 GMT
Same here, like him but it's not a position we're short in and would add to the overload of players in those attcking positions behind the striker. In truth we have some decent players up there and from here on in if adding there, it should be on the basis of one going out and the player coming in being of an obvious and significant upgrade imo.
DEMBELE------------STANSFIELD-------------JJ---------------MIYOSHI
ANDERSON----------T.ROBERTS------------HALL-------------DONOVAN
and that's without putting Bacuna into the equation whilst we're only playing 3 in the places behind the striker, we don't need 9 or 10 players for those 3 spots.
Agree probably not a position we need to stenghen. That being said knowone can nail the 10 position down. For me jj isnt a 10, Dembele and Anderson better on the wing. Hall never fit, Stansfield wont be here next season and Donovan young. So on that basis having Pritchard and Miyoshi and Hall if fit battling it out for number 10 next season, if the deal is decent wouldnt be against it.
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 17, 2024 20:45:25 GMT
I don't see why we are in the market for another player up top that's not a striker. I'd have a punt on Langstaff and if Beilik can suddenly fit into the back four then finding a central midfielder could mean that we only need 3 signings. Id prefer a gamble on Cole than Langstaff.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 17, 2024 22:10:44 GMT
Get Siriki's brother in.
Watching him tonight it's like they are identical players. Imagine one on each wing!
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Post by jaystan on Jan 18, 2024 12:20:45 GMT
i would have a punt at Devante Cole but there are 3 other champ teams sniffing round so need to pick him up pronto if that's the case.
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Post by sapfo on Jan 18, 2024 15:32:46 GMT
Get Siriki's brother in. Watching him tonight it's like they are identical players. Imagine one on each wing! Karamoko is the boy that played for Celtic aged 15. He plays on the opposite wing. I’m sure you would get an extra 10% out of two brothers playing together.
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Post by cnote on Jan 19, 2024 6:05:06 GMT
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Post by bubba on Jan 19, 2024 12:34:59 GMT
Food for thought.
Records of Langstaff and Cole this season in teams that are doing about as well as each other in their respective divisions.
Langstaff----goals*-18 from 2345 minutes on pitch and 107 shots with 45 on target
Cole---------goals*- 16 from 2143 minutes on pitch and 55 shots with 27 on target
*excluding penalties
which suggests Cole needs only half the shots to almost equal Langstaff's goals, that his accuracy (shots on target) is superior and that he's done this at a higher level. Indeed if Cole had been able to take as many shots as Langtaff and maintained his conversion rate he'd be on 30 goals already and championship clubs likely wouldn't be getting a look in.
This page www.transfermarkt.co.uk/devante-cole/leistungsdaten/spieler/186924 shows you the games this season in which Cole has scored, if you've got 30 minutes to spare type those fixtures into youtube and look at his goals, some superb finishing. It's not a comprehensive scoutng report but shows you his speed, awareness and finishing ability to good effect and imo would be half the price of Langstaff with a higher pedigree and experience of higher level football.
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 19, 2024 13:12:16 GMT
A geordie fan, so maybe not. If settled in nottingham could choose not to relocate if played for blues.
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Post by bertieauld on Jan 19, 2024 13:19:13 GMT
Yes, I would agree with bubbs, what is his age? Why not get them both, we need them.
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