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Post by dutchblue on Apr 10, 2024 22:40:06 GMT
Not the worst Blues side ever. But in terms of commitment, attitude, desire - easily the worst side I have seen in 51 years as a Bluenose. That HAS to change in the next 4 games, with a big change in personnel and formation, or we are down. No question. Let’s say a big thanks to Hudds for getting spanked last night. It’s the ONLY reason we are not as good as down already.
I now have us at 58.6% probability to go down. But even that’s assuming we actually turn up for any of the next 4 games.
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Post by nosurrender on Apr 11, 2024 8:52:02 GMT
Are we staying up ha ha ha 😂 😅 The local circus is missing all the clowns we bought 🤡 Where are the lions when you need them 🦁 ð
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Post by royalblue on Apr 11, 2024 9:30:37 GMT
Our form is appalling and it is very hard to see how we are going to get out of the bottom three from here. Of course mathematically it is still possible but the odds are now firmly against us. Very disappointing and we will have to suck it up. I hope the new owners make sure that our player recruitment from this summer on never leaves us with such a lob sided squad of players lacking both physicality and pace again. Much of that of course is not down to Knighthead but notwithstanding it cannot be allowed to occur again.
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Post by bubba on Apr 11, 2024 10:34:43 GMT
For those that don't realise you can change your vote above, I have but appear to be the only one, are you all still secretly hopeful?
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Post by expatjohn on Apr 11, 2024 10:38:47 GMT
For those that don't realise you can change your vote above, I have but appear to be the only one, are you all still secretly hopeful? Yes, hopeful but not convinced. Last night has knocked the stuffing out of me.
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Post by Sammy Wren on Apr 11, 2024 11:08:19 GMT
last night proved what a bunch of pussies these lot are, its fading fast, maybe Juke coming back could provide a spark but what a bunch of losers.
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Post by kennyburnstr7 on Apr 11, 2024 11:18:38 GMT
I agree with EPJ, hopeful ,but that hope was dented last night. Thought it was looking a nailed on 0-0 but one awful touch from Paik loses possession and we get punished.The two away games are critical now- we may need to win them both..
Cheers and kro
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Post by stevo on Apr 11, 2024 11:20:24 GMT
I think we still have a chance,mainly because a few teams are as bad as us. Blackburn and Huddersfields confidence won't be too high after being thrashed midweek and,looking at the weekends games,not much is gonna change if we lose. I think the Rotherham and Huddersfield games are the must win ones.
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Post by bubba on Apr 11, 2024 11:38:00 GMT
I think we still have a chance,mainly because a few teams are as bad as us. Blackburn and Huddersfields confidence won't be too high after being thrashed midweek and,looking at the weekends games,not much is gonna change if we lose. I think the Rotherham and Huddersfield games are the must win ones.
Well only Rotherham have been worse away from home and if we're looking to win back to back away games against albeit poor sides, those poor sides have still been better at home than we have away this season and I'm sad to say both have more battlers in their squads than we do.
People (me included) were looking at our game in hand at home to boro to pull us away, didn't happen. Then the Cardiff game nearly everyone was seeing as one of our banker wins to see us safe, that didn't happen. Now it's the rovrum and Hudders away games despite our horrific away form. We've won one in our last ten and that only because not one but two Preston defenders fell over, quite honestly almost any neutral looking at it would say Huddersfeld are the more likely victors in our match with them, why wouldn't they?
Not trying to be miserable but hope for me was extinguished last night, given the importance of the game and time running out, the lack of urgency and devilment from us was truly shocking.
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Post by bluescharlie on Apr 11, 2024 12:39:45 GMT
For those that don't realise you can change your vote above, I have but appear to be the only one, are you all still secretly hopeful? hopeful is the only thing you can be. I understand why people aren’t, but for me got to be as positive as possible. It’s not over yet and until it is you’ve got to keep going and not give up
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Post by BluenoseB on Apr 11, 2024 12:46:23 GMT
For those that don't realise you can change your vote above, I have but appear to be the only one, are you all still secretly hopeful? hopeful is the only thing you can be. I understand why people aren’t, but for me got to be as positive as possible. It’s not over yet and until it is you’ve got to keep going and not give up Can you tell the players that please.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Apr 11, 2024 16:04:12 GMT
I changed mine to not going down because there will be world war 3 and we will be vaporised by a nuclear missile before next year. How quickly can Knighthead build a nuclear bunker at the Wheels site?
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Post by blueinblack on Apr 11, 2024 17:09:28 GMT
I was still optimistic until I came on here. When I saw Hogan is being banded about as the saviour, I think we should plan for League 1. We need a Sinclair Armstrong character, who’s going to get in amongst it, ruffle a few egos and become a fan favourite for his sheer hard work and attitude. Instead it’s Scott bloody Hogan. Last one out…..
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Post by royalblue on Apr 11, 2024 18:29:50 GMT
I have not voted yet but after last night I am moving strongly to the no camp. We have failed to take advantage against Boro and again last night as Bubba points out and that is telling. I think we will lose our next two and it will then depend on what others have done to give us a remote chance of winning the last two to stage a great escape. Of course we might already be down by then and there is no guarantee we will win those. Flat as a witch's tit at the moment and the sooner this awful season is finished the better. I think we are gone to be honest.
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Post by BluenoseB on Apr 11, 2024 18:55:12 GMT
We win sat then a very slight maybe we still can. Imo we need to go into the hudders game outside the bottom 3 if not just cant see it. Would be very blues of old not so.much this team to lose last night and win the tougher game.
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Post by gammo on Apr 11, 2024 19:34:48 GMT
Hoping Coventry have got one eye on the FA cup semi (and they fecking owe us big time).
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Post by jazzzy786 on Apr 11, 2024 19:57:26 GMT
Hoping Coventry have got one eye on the FA cup semi (and they fecking owe us big time). I already forsee the headline SIMMply UNSTOPPABLE
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Post by gammo on Apr 11, 2024 20:05:14 GMT
Hoping Coventry have got one eye on the FA cup semi (and they fecking owe us big time). I already forsee the headline SIMMply UNSTOPPABLE 'Stansfield gives Coventry the Blues' (I prefer my headline) 😄😄
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Post by dutchblue on Apr 12, 2024 10:31:00 GMT
Today Opta has fed its superdupercomputer with a fresh batch of chips and come up with the following probabilities for relegation (every remaining fixture was analysed 10,000 times each).
Sheff Wed 55% Blues 46% Huddersfield 39%
Millwall 19% Plymouth 16% QPR 10% Blackburn 8% Stoke 7%
Fat lady busy tossing a coin, but not singing. Yet. Pampers may be required…..
PS: Coventry gets a probability of 35% to make the playoffs.
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Post by gammo on Apr 12, 2024 17:50:46 GMT
Right, I've had 48 hrs to get over the Cardiff game.....I haven't really done that but we move on.
Beating Cardiff wouldn't really have changed much as we could quite easily be back in the bottom 3 tomorrow if we had of done. Again, tomorrow isn't the last chance saloon but Rotherham and Huddersfield ARE and its those games that we HAVE to win.
Winning tomorrow would be fantastic and would give us the chance to wrap up safety against Huddersfield - the players have GOT to realise that before the games kick off tomorrow.....if they don't, we deserve to go down.
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Post by kevinuk81 on Apr 12, 2024 17:58:39 GMT
Stoke have yet to play Sheffield Wednesday and Plymouth Argyle, could do with them winning both of those.
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Post by gammo on Apr 12, 2024 18:48:34 GMT
Stoke have yet to play Sheffield Wednesday and Plymouth Argyle, could do with them winning both of those. Exactly. Huddersfield are away to Ipswich last game which could decide if they go up as champions, as runners up or play offs - we need to be 3 points ahead of Huddersfield which by beating them we quite well could be. Plymouth have got Leicester tonight, Blackburn (who aren't out if this yet) are away to Leeds, Stoke v Plymouth, Blackburn v Sheff Wed, Leicester v Blackburn. The lads need to put 1000% into the last 4 games.....it's as simple as that.
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Post by bignumbernine on Apr 12, 2024 19:28:47 GMT
In my opinion, there is one key tactical change Rowett MUST enforce if we are to stay up.
We must play two up front. I don’t care if it’s Hogan, a half fit Juke, Junior Dixon or someone else. Stansfield CANNOT be left up there again. It has been an awful experiment that has been repeated all season and it doesn’t work.
He simply cannot play that traditional #9 role and needs help desperately. You put someone alongside him and everything else falls into place. We will lose tomorrow if it’s the same old 4-2-3-1 crap.
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Post by dutchblue on Apr 12, 2024 19:48:51 GMT
To follow up on Big#9, Coventry have failed to score just ONCE in their last 29 games, averaging more than 2 goals a game in the process. So, if that run continues, (unless they have a stinker and we defend like champions), then we will need to score at least 2 to get any result and more likely 3 to get a win. Where are those goals coming from?
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Post by bubba on Apr 12, 2024 20:03:08 GMT
Yep, 10 games, one win, if there is any criticism of Rowett it's that he hasn't changed it enough, The Stansfield spearpoint has been failing a long time, it's not about whether he scores or not it's about whether we as a team threaten enough and we just haven't been, we need some presence up there, someone to stick their arse in a defender and compete in the air and both at the same time if they can.
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Post by bubba on Apr 12, 2024 20:06:36 GMT
Plymouth beating Leicester, we're running out of teams that are apparently not out of it yet.
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Post by BluenoseB on Apr 12, 2024 21:06:11 GMT
Plymouth beating Leicester, we're running out of teams that are apparently not out of it yet. Looking like 2 out of us hudders and wednesday.
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Post by bignumbernine on Apr 12, 2024 21:32:06 GMT
I would say Stoke and Blackburn are still in contention as well.
Blackburn away to Leeds. Huge six pointer tomorrow with Sheffield Wednesday vs Stoke.
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Post by gammo on Apr 12, 2024 21:41:53 GMT
Wow 😳 didn't see that result happening - even other results are going against us. Looking at the positive though, it keeps the race at the top live with Huddersfield having to go to Ipswich and Blackburn having to still play Leeds and Leicester.
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Post by bubba on Apr 12, 2024 22:05:38 GMT
looking like one out of hudders and wednesday to join us and rovrum, we are done, weak minded, lacking physicality, lacking desire in numbers that no blues squad in my lifetime compares to.
If they made the last few weeks a street fighting or UFC competition for 3 points a match we'd still keep losing. The sad truth is they are basically pussies, that's not said as an insult, it's just a genuine observation. When your back's against the wall and you have to summon up the guts and mental strength to fight your way out of a situation and all you can muster is what those players did against Cardiff it really tells you everything you need to know. They just don't have it in them to draw a line in the sand and say no more, they just don't have it, it's not about talent it's about there being no leaders amongst them and in the absence of that they just choose to lie down because there's no well within them to draw from.
I'll tell you something else, when we go down the loanees and released players will number 12 or more. We'll sell a couple like JJ and Bielik and maybe loan out a couple like Paik and maybe Tyler Roberts AND WE'LL STILL be completely devoid of leadership and still have too many players weak of mind and body. People didn't like Troy or Harlee but they wouldn't have laid down like this lot. Even the good footballing sides in this division have a bit of snarl about them, not us, there's just nothing. Kieftenbeld, David Davis, Paul Robinson, Donaldson, Maghoma etc etc, far far more limited or over the hill players in the main and beat this lot upsides down 7 days week.
Stansfield, Ruddy and Gary Gardner are the only ones I would say have the fire in their belly to fight tooth and nail for it and not exactly the same but a nod to the likes of Miyoshi, Bacuna and Sunjic who will put an absolute shift in but really probably only Ruddy that you'd say has leadership qualites, it's just not enough.
Alsso have to say that Rowett has really disappointed me. I get that he feels limited in what he can do because of the make up especially physically of the squad, it's a legitmate observation, but he's basically gone down the route of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome, and yeah it is insanity.
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