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Post by cnote on Dec 16, 2022 6:56:19 GMT
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 16, 2022 13:27:52 GMT
Looked like he was talking to 6 MPs, 3 of whom actually paying attention. I just put Andrew Brigden into the BBC's search. They can't find him. GB News found two articles, neither of which was this.
He's trying, bless him, but I'd guess many more people will have been fcuked up by the jab (1 in 800 apparently), than will see this.
I think the truth is, they (the MPs) already know. They don't care. It was never about public health.
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Post by cnote on Dec 16, 2022 21:02:54 GMT
Interesting regarding the anonymity of the said Mp.
I’m also watching the situation with the state Governor of Florida. He’s also asking big questions.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 21, 2022 18:09:00 GMT
Interesting regarding the anonymity of the said Mp. I’m also watching the situation with the state Governor of Florida. He’s also asking big questions. Ron DeSantis. We've been let down so often, but for now he seems like one of our guys
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Post by bubba on Dec 21, 2022 18:42:57 GMT
I'm completely convinced this mass innoculation was both unnecessary and dangerous and that's before we even find out any long term effects. However it's extremely difficult to have a rational conversation imo with most vaccinated people who accuse you of all sorts whilst disregarding scientists even very high ranking scientsts who happen to disagree with the political narrative and scientific evidence which goes against the poltical narrative.
From the start nobody KNEW but the subject was politicised and from there on there was only ONE narrative and anybody going against that narrative was set upon even by ordinary people with no more specialist knowledge than those they castigated for daring to listen to alternate views, it was and is more akin to religous zealots than being disciples of science as many claimed. I believe many such people are now so invested in the narrative that was given to them it's become part of their reality and scientifc evidence shoved in their faces now will receive short shrift, it is exactly the same mindset seen numerous times throughout history, the narrative is given, enforced, repeated ad finitum and not only accepted by the masses but ultimately even defended by them, fiercely in many cases despite them being lay men themselves.
I remain unvaccinated, as far as I'm aware have never had covid nor even a cold in 3 plus years. I do take high doses of vit D, plus K2 and zinc to help my immune system combat viral infections and I'm not a covid denier or anti-vaccer, it's a proven medical technology. I was and remain wary of chemical concoctions that were rushed through normal trials and only developed upon legal immunity for Pharmaceutical companies from any issues, short or long term affecting those taking their vaccines including death that their vaccines might bring about.
I'm actually astonished at just how much of the population did in fact accept those risks including giving it to their children. I'm not saying they were wrong, it's a personal choice, my astonishment is only how high those numbers went. Of course many were also coereced upon threat of losing their livelihood not to mention being treated like social lepers and LITERALLY excluded from normal social function if they didn't comply which was not only in the main accepted by the masses but championed, Vive la liberté.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 21, 2022 20:06:59 GMT
Absolutely. I think we were all worried when the thing broke out in London. Then a few of us started to smell a rat, when we had MPs getting caught going to parties, big weddings & funerals etc. Why aren't they worried ? Then the boat people from the arm pits of the world, were welcomed in with open arms. Really ? Doesn't matter about the all important rules if you're on a BLM protest. OK, this is bollocks. The number of people who have died (because they were eaten by a polar bear) has risen to... Government clearly lying now. "We have a vaccine. It won't stop you getting it, or spreading it, but it will help, we pinky swear". fcuk off. "Yes it is true, that the manufacturers won't issue the jab, unless they get full indemnity from any harm the jab may cause. .. But it's perfectly safe"
A few of us, me in particular, attempted to get others on here, to believe their own eyes and ears. We could see the physical risks. We could see the damage being caused to the economy and our liberty.
When it got to the "No you can't have a beer. There's a pandemic don't you know. What was that? Oh yes, you can have a beer and a scotch egg" stage, you and I highly suspected they were experimenting to see how much utter shit the public would buy. All of it, in most cases.
They were bent on getting needles in our arms. For whatever reason. I doubt they've given up.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 22, 2022 20:21:34 GMT
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Post by Professor Frink on Dec 23, 2022 23:39:48 GMT
Ah this thread. Bit of Covid conspiracy and some of uncle Tonys YouTube videos. We will journey on at its finest.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 24, 2022 11:53:32 GMT
Ah this thread. Bit of Covid conspiracy and some of uncle Tonys YouTube videos. We will journey on at its finest. You do butt hurt. I don't think it's worth discussing the matter with anyone who hasn't twigged by now. If you want to keep wearing your mask, by all means knock yourself out.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Dec 26, 2022 14:35:23 GMT
It's good it is being discussed. A lot of people got very rich through the vaccination programme including the current prime minister. I don't for a second think the Government has my best interest at hand but lining their own pockets is a definite. The fact that many people suffered life changing effects as a result of taking the vaccine including death should not be brushed under the carpet. I wrote many months back in counter argument against those people saying you need to get vaccinated or you could die from COVID - I would need to catch COVID which could have a mild or serious effect. The injection would definitely be going into me unlike COVID which may. The effect of the vaccination could also be mild or serious (including death). As someone who took regular precautions such as washing hands, avoiding crowds, wearing masks, eating healthy I'd rather not inject myself with a poorly tested product and take my chances with MAYBE catching Covid. I am still alive without a DNA altering drug inside me.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 26, 2022 16:21:40 GMT
It's good it is being discussed. A lot of people got very rich through the vaccination programme including the current prime minister. I don't for a second think the Government has my best interest at hand but lining their own pockets is a definite. The fact that many people suffered life changing effects as a result of taking the vaccine including death should not be brushed under the carpet. I wrote many months back in counter argument against those people saying you need to get vaccinated or you could die from COVID - I would need to catch COVID which could have a mild or serious effect. The injection would definitely be going into me unlike COVID which may. The effect of the vaccination could also be mild or serious (including death). As someone who took regular precautions such as washing hands, avoiding crowds, wearing masks, eating healthy I'd rather not inject myself with a poorly tested product and take my chances with MAYBE catching Covid. I am still alive without a DNA altering drug inside me. You did. I remember it well. I also remember James Whale saying what nucts people like us are, and now he's pretty fcuked with blood clots. I'd be fine with that, if it wasn't for all the good people who assumed the government actually cared about us, to the point of believing two contradictory statements at the same time, are all at risk. fcuking up 1 in 800 according to Andrew Bridgen in cnote's video. The same Mr Bridgen who's now suspended from parliament, coincidence I'm sure.
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Post by Professor Frink on Dec 26, 2022 21:42:33 GMT
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 26, 2022 22:36:48 GMT
Full Fact fullfact.org/about/funding/Check these pages out. Look up who formed the organisation, who they do work for, and the sort of institutions who fund it. And look those institutions up. A bunch of neutral, well meaning volunteers, they aren't.
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Post by Professor Frink on Dec 26, 2022 23:34:17 GMT
Shit You’re right. Let’s trust some bloke on a YouTube video spouting “truths” funded by some mysteriously funded tufton street think tank, instead
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Post by cnote on Dec 28, 2022 10:07:18 GMT
Made it to the front pages of an Irish newspaper.
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Post by cnote on Dec 28, 2022 10:16:24 GMT
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 28, 2022 12:00:22 GMT
It's worrying me. Unsurprisingly. This sort of thing would not have been previously allowed, and labeled dangerous mis-information. Stories of harm caused by the jab, are now being drip fed on UK tv. Allowed / instructed to be drip thread on UK tv. I'm worried something big is coming, and the government wants to make it old news / re-write history and make out this sort of information has always been allowed. The public have always been informed.
It recently came out that Pfizer didn't even test to see if the jab stopped the spread. It was obvious to some of us that there wasn't time. Some of us knew there was no way of knowing the long term effects.
Pfizer knew. That's why they insisted on indemnity from prosecution / liability. The government knew.
Hopefully we won't have a pandemic of the jabbed. But the fact is, this sort of thing was not allowed, previously. Flat Earthers spreading misinformation.
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Post by choc on Dec 28, 2022 14:48:06 GMT
Are we ready for the Chinese invasion.
Oops. Sorry, shouldn't use the i word 🤔
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 29, 2022 12:33:00 GMT
What's the difference between a 'conspiracy theory' and the truth ?
The date.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Dec 29, 2022 13:23:18 GMT
Definitions according to online dictionary
Conspiracy Theory, n
a theory that rejects the standard explanation for an event and instead credits a covert group or organisation with carrying out a secret plot: One popular conspiracy theory accuses environmentalists of sabotage in last year's mine collapse.
Truth
noun, plural truths [troothz, trooths]. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
So the current reported truth could be a lie and not the actual truth. The conspiracy theory is being portrayed as the lie but could in fact be the actual truth. It will continue to be dismissed to benefit those who will be affected by their untruths being exposed. When the conspiracy theory is proven to be true it ceases to be a theory but a fact and the current truth becomes a lie.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 29, 2022 15:13:43 GMT
For me a Conspiracy is two or more people plotting is secret A Theory is an idea for an explanation.
Today 'Conspiracy Theory' is an expression used to discredit anything which does not go along with the official explanation, as complete nonsense, spouted by nut jobs. The alternative for the proponents of the official version, is to actually tackle the alternative version, and look at the evidence.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Dec 29, 2022 22:53:08 GMT
Sometimes the official version is such bullshit like the JFK assassination and 9/11 that you wonder how anyone believes the official version. The word Conspiracy theoriest for those seeking the truth is to indeed discredit them as crackpots and place them alongside flat Earth believers. No doubt they'd love us all to be 3 bags full submissive sheep. Truthseeker is a better word.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 30, 2022 1:49:29 GMT
Sometimes the official version is such bullshit like the JFK assassination and 9/11 that you wonder how anyone believes the official version. The word Conspiracy theoriest for those seeking the truth is to indeed discredit them as crackpots and place them alongside flat Earth believers. No doubt they'd love us all to be 3 bags full submissive sheep. Truthseeker is a better word. Sigh. We don't know as we weren't there, same as most shit. My understanding is, more than 50% of US citizens don't buy the JFK assassination and 9/11 narrative. That's my understanding, I haven't asked them all. I doubt anyone has. For the sake of discourse, let's say it's true. What difference does this make ? I'd say fcuk all. It doesn't matter whether this theoretical greater than 50% (or even if 90%) are right. Their opinion makes no difference. Nothing, not even an admission will change. As I've said for knocking on 3 years now -EVERYTHING IS TOP DOWN. Nothing is bottom up. (We the 'voters' and 'consumers' are the bottom) Democracy is a bull shit passifier. I'm sure of it. I'm sure that every fcuking thing most people are pissed off about, those same people kid themselves is a result of collective will. As cuntish as that notion is. There is no example that I'm aware of, of rulers giving those they rule over, a vote to have someone else rule over them, and then gladly hand over power, should the vote not go their way; and hope the new rulers do likewise, should they win the next vote. Throughout history, the notion would be laughable. It still is.
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Post by choc on Dec 30, 2022 11:26:28 GMT
For me a Conspiracy is two or more people plotting is secret A Theory is an idea for an explanation. Today 'Conspiracy Theory' is an expression used to discredit anything which does not go along with the official explanation, as complete nonsense, spouted by nut jobs. The alternative for the proponents of the official version, is to actually tackle the alternative version, and look at the evidence. The problem with most conspiracy theorists, their conspiracy theories offer very little solid evidence for them to be believed. Much of their 'evidence' comes from fellow conspiracy theorists. Man not landing on the moon is the best example.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Dec 30, 2022 15:33:19 GMT
For me a Conspiracy is two or more people plotting is secret A Theory is an idea for an explanation. Today 'Conspiracy Theory' is an expression used to discredit anything which does not go along with the official explanation, as complete nonsense, spouted by nut jobs. The alternative for the proponents of the official version, is to actually tackle the alternative version, and look at the evidence. The problem with most conspiracy theorists, their conspiracy theories offer very little solid evidence for them to be believed. Much of their 'evidence' comes from fellow conspiracy theorists. Man not landing on the moon is the best example. Actually you are wrong there. Many credible speakers came out against the vaccination programme because of the known side effects but were shut down and denied a voice to warn or discuss the dangers. They were not crackpots who believed the queen was a lizard but fully qualified medical practitioners who had the interests of their patients at heart.
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Post by choc on Dec 30, 2022 16:40:54 GMT
The problem with most conspiracy theorists, their conspiracy theories offer very little solid evidence for them to be believed. Much of their 'evidence' comes from fellow conspiracy theorists. Man not landing on the moon is the best example. Actually you are wrong there. Many credible speakers came out against the vaccination programme because of the known side effects but were shut down and denied a voice to warn or discuss the dangers. They were not crackpots who believed the queen was a lizard but fully qualified medical practitioners who had the interests of their patients at heart. I was generalising but regarding the dangers of 'any' vaccine will be built around solid medical evidence not opinion. The evidence will be there in time and some who guessed correctly will say "I told you so" and those who guessed incorrectly will shrink away and look for something else.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 31, 2022 12:26:20 GMT
Actually you are wrong there. Many credible speakers came out against the vaccination programme because of the known side effects but were shut down and denied a voice to warn or discuss the dangers. They were not crackpots who believed the queen was a lizard but fully qualified medical practitioners who had the interests of their patients at heart. I was generalising but regarding the dangers of 'any' vaccine will be built around solid medical evidence not opinion. The evidence will be there in time and some who guessed correctly will say "I told you so" and those who guessed incorrectly will shrink away and look for something else. I didn't need anyone to tell me the government didn't believe their own bull shit. I used my eyes, ears and common sense, and gave examples, many times. I'm not bothered that no-one is saying sorry for the name calling, Tony, you were right. I'd just like people to use their brains next time I warn about an imminent disaster, and hope people won't comply with demands made of them, based on clearly fictitious data.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Dec 31, 2022 19:54:51 GMT
I was generalising but regarding the dangers of 'any' vaccine will be built around solid medical evidence not opinion. The evidence will be there in time and some who guessed correctly will say "I told you so" and those who guessed incorrectly will shrink away and look for something else. I didn't need anyone to tell me the government didn't believe their own bull shit. I used my eyes, ears and common sense, and gave examples, many times. I'm not bothered that no-one is saying sorry for the name calling, Tony, you were right. I'd just like people to use their brains next time I warn about an imminent disaster, and hope people won't comply with demands made of them, based on clearly fictitious data. 👍 It was always about telling people the truth. The problem has always been people do not want to hear the truth and want to continue to believe the obvious bullshit we could clearly see. Maybe it's the social element of belonging to a large group viewed as the norm or the inability to believe that so many people could be so easily be manipulated. People need to be critical and question everything instead of believing everything they hear so readily.
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Post by tonyhancock on Dec 31, 2022 20:30:22 GMT
I didn't need anyone to tell me the government didn't believe their own bull shit. I used my eyes, ears and common sense, and gave examples, many times. I'm not bothered that no-one is saying sorry for the name calling, Tony, you were right. I'd just like people to use their brains next time I warn about an imminent disaster, and hope people won't comply with demands made of them, based on clearly fictitious data. 👍 It was always about telling people the truth. The problem has always been people do not want to hear the truth and want to continue to believe the obvious bullshit we could clearly see. Maybe it's the social element of belonging to a large group viewed as the norm or the inability to believe that so many people could be so easily be manipulated. People need to be critical and question everything instead of believing everything they hear so readily. From my observations, those who are doing very well for themselves, are the most determined to not look facts squarely in the face. People have to get there in their own way. One of three ways from what I can tell: 1. The slow burn. This was me. It started when I started to realise the US 'civil war' wasn't really about, what they claim it was about. Then there was my US gold confiscation discovery. It just built for me. 2. Others start to notice. Then they start to suspect. Then they look into things. Then they shit themselves. 3. With some it takes someone they respect to point something out. Not me, obviously. But a hero of theirs, whether sporting, music, anything really. Then they take note I'd be stunned for example, if anyone believed the government's line that inflation is 10% PER 12 MONTHS. They must know this is bollocks. They just need to take from that, governments lie, and wonder what else they lie about.
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Post by choc on Jan 5, 2023 14:25:46 GMT
Thought you'd be all over this Tony.
Very interesting but some information missing which leaves it a bit short.
Followed him alot during the pandemic, always worth a listen.
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