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Post by bubba on Mar 12, 2024 23:09:38 GMT
I get it, bad results and a shite performance tonight so fans are reachng for a solution, Allardyce, Warnock, Arry, signing uncontracted players, route one football, lucky heather, SAS assault courses and God knows what else. Mowbray was said to be likely to be away for 6-8 weeks, after the Watford game there's an international break and the QPR game will be 6 weeks since Mowbray's announcement, maybe that's a more realistic solution? I know I know you all want confirmation but the club have said they won't be giving a blow by blow account, I'm sure they're fully aware of just how he's doing.
I don't want us to go down but if we do, then we'll already have a manager in place who knows what it takes to win promotion from there aswell as from this division and we know better than most appointing a new manager more often than not is not the silver bullet fans or owners expect and which top manager could we attract in division one?
I know it's tough and fairly sure I'm in the minority but think most things being suggested now are likely to cause us more harm than good both short and longer term, sometimes you just have to grit your teeth and get through things, that goes for players and fans, heads up, chins out and broad shoulders.
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Post by bignumbernine on Mar 12, 2024 23:56:01 GMT
I genuinely don’t see how an interim manager could cause more short term harm. We’ve took 1 point from 5 games under Venus. We’re 21st with a 1 point cushion.
How can it get much worse?
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Post by bubba on Mar 13, 2024 0:15:31 GMT
Mowbray might only miss one more game.
Do the players really need a 6th voice this season telling them yet another different way to play?
How would Mowbray react to someone else being brought in, particularly if he's told them he's not far away?
The majority of replacement managers during a season actually do worse points per game than the manager they are replacing, this has long been known.
At the end of the day, if you or anyone else think it's a good idea then there's probably nothing I or anybody else could say to change your mind so we'll just have to agree to disagree. Thankfully (from my perspective) the owners are imo very unlikely to do anything other than wait for Mowbray to return.
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Post by bignumbernine on Mar 13, 2024 0:26:47 GMT
You’re right, Mowbray might only miss one more game.
Alternatively he may miss a lot more. And I am seriously worried by the prospect of Mark Venus managing enough games so that if/when Mowbray does come back it will be too late.
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 13, 2024 6:56:32 GMT
If hes not back for bank holiday weekend it needs to be done. Last night was like a performance of team knowing its the managers last game. Venus post match last couple have been very defeatist, dont wanna go to hard on him as its not his fault hes in the position and his holding the fort at tough times. Put he isnt inspiring which is plain to see in players performances.
Players are ajoke tho and couldnt give a shit if they all go in the summer know matter what league we are in.
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Post by dutchblue on Mar 21, 2024 12:12:57 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊
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Post by gammo on Mar 21, 2024 12:44:09 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊 I think everyone was hopeful of Mowbray returning so didn't see the need/fuss for someone else to come in. Once it was clear (I've no doubt by Mowbray himself) that he wasn't going to return then you have to go with Plan C as Plan B (Venus) clearly wasn't working and probably never would.
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Post by Professor Frink on Mar 21, 2024 13:46:31 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊 I guess im one of those people. My preference was that we didnt bring someone in a) for the hope that TM was returning just after easter and b) the club felt that venus could lead us to safety that both of those factors are not true - then i am comfortable that they have looked at a manager who knows the club, has come in and sorted us quickly before, and has a good record in the championship. They have also been clear this is a temporary appointment Fortunately, being able to change ones mind as new information emerges - is generally a good thing
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Post by dutchblue on Mar 21, 2024 13:56:09 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊 I guess im one of those people. My preference was that we didnt bring someone in a) for the hope that TM was returning just after easter and b) the club felt that venus could lead us to safety that both of those factors are not true - then i am comfortable that they have looked at a manager who knows the club, has come in and sorted us quickly before, and has a good record in the championship. They have also been clear this is a temporary appointment Fortunately, being able to change ones mind as new information emerges - is generally a good thing It should only ever have been a temporary appointment, I agree, absolutely. If Mowbray comes back fitter and raring to go then great. I think the way it has been handled is pretty good. Also, I think the mood is good because we all (most of us) can now regain some hope. Rowett would seem to be the best possible piece for this particular puzzle at this particular moment. He certainly seems up for it and that’s hopefully enough to give the fans a big lift and some of the squad a right good rocket up the R’s.
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Post by bubba on Mar 21, 2024 14:35:03 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊
I agree, it is interesting that when circumstances change smart people are prepared to alter their stance, whereas those of a more stubborn nature would foolishly dig their heels in as though new information doesn't change anything, so fair play for highlighting that.
Indeed at the risk of blowing my own trumpet (perish the thought) my very first post on finding out Rowett was likely imminent included,
On the plus side, clearly Mowbray isn't ready to come back anytime soon, and I did say until we hear otherwise and whilst as said not official it seems imminent, then it's good that they haven't wasted any time, he'll need as much time as possible to get in there and start working.
When circumstances change, and people don't change their opinion at all, that's when you have to question their thought processes.
KRO
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Post by bubba on Mar 21, 2024 14:37:33 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊 I guess im one of those people. My preference was that we didnt bring someone in a) for the hope that TM was returning just after easter and b) the club felt that venus could lead us to safety that both of those factors are not true - then i am comfortable that they have looked at a manager who knows the club, has come in and sorted us quickly before, and has a good record in the championship. They have also been clear this is a temporary appointment Fortunately, being able to change ones mind as new information emerges - is generally a good thing
Aye up, there's one of them smart folk.
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Post by bubba on Mar 21, 2024 14:38:33 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊 I think everyone was hopeful of Mowbray returning so didn't see the need/fuss for someone else to come in. Once it was clear (I've no doubt by Mowbray himself) that he wasn't going to return then you have to go with Plan C as Plan B (Venus) clearly wasn't working and probably never would. and another, blimey it's like bloody mastermind round here
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Post by bubba on Mar 21, 2024 14:43:42 GMT
It’s interesting to see how many people who were dead set against bringing in an interim manager are now enthusiastically talking about our new interim manager 😊 I guess im one of those people. My preference was that we didnt bring someone in a) for the hope that TM was returning just after easter and b) the club felt that venus could lead us to safety that both of those factors are not true - then i am comfortable that they have looked at a manager who knows the club, has come in and sorted us quickly before, and has a good record in the championship. They have also been clear this is a temporary appointment Fortunately, being able to change ones mind as new information emerges - is generally a good thing
I hadn't actually read your post before my reply, I tend to read posts and reply rather than the whole thread, but yes clearly a good thing and still very surprising when you get people who think it is some kind of weakness or hypocrisy to be mocked, it rarely turns out the way they expected.
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Post by TILTON on Mar 21, 2024 20:16:07 GMT
It could be an idea to ask Mowbray to suggest any current free manager to at least be brought in for an interim basis. This can go horribly wrong really quickly.
I said the above on 26th Feb!
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