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Post by expatjohn on Mar 16, 2024 16:48:43 GMT
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 16, 2024 16:53:53 GMT
1 point in 18 under this caretaker, relegation form all over it.
Interim asap else league 1 end of.
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Post by bignumbernine on Mar 16, 2024 17:00:55 GMT
All the people who said we don’t need an interim: changed your mind yet?
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Post by Kipper SOTV on Mar 16, 2024 17:01:53 GMT
Played better than the last couple, but as many have said many many times, mistakes at the back to give a goal away, and no quality up front.
Not great stats so far for MV
Played 6 1 draw 5 losses
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daz
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Post by daz on Mar 16, 2024 17:02:55 GMT
Manager's off sick Players don't give a fcuk Garden Gnomes all of then Packed the team with demographics and they give up week after week I can't wait to see the back of all these fcuking useless gimps
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 17:09:41 GMT
Manager's off sick Players don't give a fcuk Garden Gnomes all of then Packed the team with demographics and they give up week after week I can't wait to see the back of all these fcuking useless gimps
That is utterly ridiculous, try specsavers.
Seen similar comments about players not gonna be here next season not being bothered, well Stansfield always puts a shift in, Drameh was my MOTM, Aiwu was hardly slacking, Bacuna not far behind Drameh in terms of yards covered and Sunjic was his usual everywhere, did Juke look like he didn't care? It's an absolute nonsense, to anybody with eyes they clearly cared and were running their bollocks off. You can think they're not good enough, that's more subjective but saying they don't care is clearly bullsht.
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Post by bringbackstanding on Mar 16, 2024 17:10:29 GMT
Working from home is quite common nowadays but not a good idea for a football manager. All the best to TM health wise, football manager very stressful job so depending on nature of the medical issue may be best to take rest of the season off.
Obviously a serious problem for TM otherwise could have waited until end of season.
Meanwhile keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. On a positive note a few rivals goal difference taken a battering and cannot be in the bottom 3 for at least 2 weeks.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 17:10:31 GMT
All the people who said we don’t need an interim: changed your mind yet? no
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daz
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Post by daz on Mar 16, 2024 17:14:05 GMT
Manager's off sick Players don't give a fcuk Garden Gnomes all of then Packed the team with demographics and they give up week after week I can't wait to see the back of all these fcuking useless gimps
That is utterly ridiculous, try specsavers.
Seen similar comments about players not gonna be here next season not being bothered, well Stansfield always puts a shift in, Drameh was my MOTM, Aiwu was hardly slacking, Bacuna not far behind Drameh in terms of yards covered and Sunjic was his usual everywhere, did Juke look like he didn't care? It's an absolute nonsense, to anybody with eyes they clearly cared and were running their bollocks off. You can think they're not good enough, that's more subjective but saying they don't care is clearly bullsht.
Aiwu and Drameh are cretins look at the throw we conceded from For Fcuks sake. Another shit team pissed all over us. Yet again they get a free pass.
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Post by bignumbernine on Mar 16, 2024 17:17:08 GMT
All the people who said we don’t need an interim: changed your mind yet? no Just out of interest, how many more losses do we need before a change is made? Or are we resigning ourselves to relegation already? Because that’s where this is going.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 17:18:20 GMT
I do believe a lot of fans think their team wins they played well, their team loses they were shit, I don't count myself in their number.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 17:21:29 GMT
Just out of interest, how many more losses do we need before a change is made? Or are we resigning ourselves to relegation already? Because that’s where this is going. Well I wouldn' chnge at all, so draw your own conclusions from that.
The statement put out about Mowbray said he was likely to be gone 6 to 8 weeks, Venus meanwhile in every update has said he's doing well. It'll be 6 weeks by the time the next game comes around so that's where I'm at. Also if he's not back expect it will be very shortly after until informed otherwise.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 17:25:03 GMT
Manager's off sick Players don't give a fcuk Garden Gnomes all of then Packed the team with demographics and they give up week after week I can't wait to see the back of all these fcuking useless gimps
PERMANENT BAN
Last time you make racist innuendos, don't bother signing back up, this time it's forever.
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Post by bluescharlie on Mar 16, 2024 17:44:19 GMT
Much improved but again really frustrating. Everything but the goal. It’s is very frustrating we are losing 0-0s because of individual mistakes which accentuates the problem despite the fact the majority of performances aren’t too bad.Gives me much more hope than Tuesday and combined with Mowbray hopefully returning, I’m keeping a positive attitude.
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Post by dutchblue on Mar 16, 2024 18:01:03 GMT
Better performance. 1 point from 18 says everything though. Nothing to add. Still more likely to survive than drop. 60/40. Mainly because there are probably 3 teams just worse than us, on balance.
Bubba, it was no personal attack earlier*, just a question. Abhor is really a very strong word, to be fair. So I was just honestly asking you “I hope those comments are not directed to anyone on this message board? OK, so re-read it now and I accept that I misinterpreted your main point (as you have misinterpreted me*). Hands up.
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 16, 2024 18:09:15 GMT
I do believe a lot of fans think their team wins they played well, their team loses they were shit, I don't count myself in their number. Tbf bubba yes we played better today but it ended in no points and no goals again same as the 5 out the other 6 games. I couldnt care less about syle or performance this end of the season its about points and right now we arnt getring them in anyway shape or form. So as better as we wer today from the shit show that was tuesday if it wernt for other results we be in bottom 3, which is even worse as shows how much a win would of give us today.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Mar 16, 2024 18:09:26 GMT
We did more in the first 5 minutes than in 90 versus Boro. We actually played well but a combination of gifting them a goal, their keeper making great saves, poor final third decisions and awful finishing we gave away 3 points to a pretty shit team. We somehow stayed out of the relegation zone today but with our horrible away record I do really fear for us.
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 16, 2024 18:09:40 GMT
Anyone know why sandsrson didnt start?
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Post by dutchblue on Mar 16, 2024 18:10:08 GMT
All the people who said we don’t need an interim: changed your mind yet? Too late now. Unless it is officials made known in the next week that Mowbray is not well enough to return this season. We were all hoping for at least 4 points from the last 2 games. Maybe 5 points from the last three games was a more than realistic hope. Gone now. Nul goals. Nul points. Repetition with the expectation of a different outcome is the first sign of madness. As it stands, it’s almost a coin-toss if we survive.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 18:31:46 GMT
I do believe a lot of fans think their team wins they played well, their team loses they were shit, I don't count myself in their number. Tbf bubba yes we played better today but it ended in no points and no goals again same as the 5 out the other 6 games. I couldnt care less about syle or performance this end of the season its about points and right now we arnt getring them in anyway shape or form. So as better as we wer today from the shit show that was tuesday if it wernt for other results we be in bottom 3, which is even worse as shows how much a win would of give us today.
I just disagree with your take almost entirely, we can't slag them for playing shit (boro) then pretty much ignore when they play much better because we didn't get the result. All we can ask is that they try their best, leave nothing on the pitch and hope it's enough. Whether or not a result goes your team's way is dependent on many things, performance, luck, refs, tactics, errors, unfortunately the luck and errors columns fecked us today. Yes Drameh shouldn't have thrown the ball across our area (my man of the match that aside) and Aiwu should have realised there wasn't enough pace on the ball to let it run across him, especially there (also thought he had a good game that aside) so yes errors from both but that aside the players did as much as they were able to imo, how can you ask for more than that?
You're right we need results regardless of performance, but the first order of the day ALWAYS is that the players give it their all and I think they did and applaud them for it, long may it continue because results are more likely to fall our way if they do that than if they don't. Today they fought all over the pitch to try and get a result, they didn't have enough quality on the day to make that telling pass or execute a good fiinsh (Miyoshi aside) but that happens, all you can do is give yourself the base to make results happen with your attitude and effort, they fought for the shirt today, no recrimminations whatsoever from me, proud to watch them today.
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Post by Professor Frink on Mar 16, 2024 18:42:55 GMT
Tbf bubba yes we played better today but it ended in no points and no goals again same as the 5 out the other 6 games. I couldnt care less about syle or performance this end of the season its about points and right now we arnt getring them in anyway shape or form. So as better as we wer today from the shit show that was tuesday if it wernt for other results we be in bottom 3, which is even worse as shows how much a win would of give us today.
I just disagree with your take almost entirely, we can't slag them for playing shit (boro) then pretty much ignore when they play much better because we didn't get the result. All we can ask is that they try their best, leave nothing on the pitch and hope it's enough. Whether or not a result goes your team's way is dependent on many things, performance, luck, refs, tactics, errors, unfortunately the luck and errors columns fecked us today. Yes Drameh shouldn't have thrown the ball across our area (my man of the match that aside) and Aiwu should have realised there wasn't enough pace on the ball to let it run across him, especially there (also thought he had a good game that aside) so yes errors from both but that aside the players did as much as they were able to imo, how can you ask for more than that?
You're right we need results regardless of performance, but the first order of the day ALWAYS is that the players give it their all and I think they did and applaud them for it, long may it continue because results are more likely to fall our way if they do that than if they don't. Today they fought all over the pitch to try and get a result, they didn't have enough quality on the day to make that telling pass or execute a good fiinsh (Miyoshi aside) but that happens, all you can do is give yourself the base to make results happen with your attitude and effort, they fought for the shirt today, no recrimminations whatsoever from me, proud to watch them today.
Top post bubba. Couldn’t have put it better
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 18:44:25 GMT
Just seen a comment on the other forum saying best referee or somat like it and have to agree, gave me no cause for complaint at all as I recall. Just for balance since most of the time we praise or slag them tends to go with whatever the result was, not saying fans are wrong when they make those comments, just that it is levelled at them they're only saying it because they won or lost, well today we lost and the ref was still decent, that is all.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 18:49:33 GMT
Anyone know why sandsrson didnt start? Not heard anything but tbh I think it was probably because Aiwu and Buchanan have in the main played well at CB.
I've not been Aiwu's biggest fan and personally think Buchanan has been quite ropey at leftback the last few times he's played there but generaally speaking they've both done fairly well at CB recently, today's Aiwu brainfart aside.
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Post by sapfo on Mar 16, 2024 18:56:27 GMT
We created enough opportunities. The final ball was lacking. Stansfield was in position at least twice where I’d have banked on a goal from him. James pinged one well too hard, and there was another well overhit pass, can’t recall who overhit that one.
Sujic should have hit the target at the very least from 10 yards out. Their goalkeeper made a very good save also.
Apart from the mistake for the goal, I thought the defence played okay.
The lack of a decent final ball is killing us. you can set your team up to get into positions which we clearly are doing, but if you can’t deliver that’s final ball, you won’t score goals. Overall, for me, it wasn’t bad performance. But you get feck all if you score less than your opponent.
apologies for my scattered thoughts
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 19:23:30 GMT
We created enough opportunities. The final ball was lacking. Stansfield was in position at least twice where I’d have banked on a goal from him. James pinged one well too hard, and there was another well overhit pass, can’t recall who overhit that one. Sujic should have hit the target at the very least from 10 yards out. Their goalkeeper made a very good save also. Apart from the mistake for the goal, I thought the defence played okay. The lack of a decent final ball is killing us. you can set your team up to get into positions which we clearly are doing, but if you can’t deliver that’s final ball, you won’t score goals. Overall, for me, it wasn’t bad performance. But you get feck all if you score less than your opponent. apologies for my scattered thoughts
No think you've summed it up ok. As you say the final ball not good enough but also for I don't know how many games now by the time one of ours is ready to try that final ball every single opposition team we face seem to have 7 or 8 bodies in the box and it needs laser precision for anything to get through and my personal feeling is that it's mostly because even when playing well the time we take to get to their box is just taking too long.
To be clear I'm not suggesting we go route one, tbh I'm not even convinced chucking Juke up there from the start is the answer either especially as in the next 5 fixtures we play Friday-Monday-Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday, no way he hacks that assuming his injury isn't too serious.
What I would say is I think Stansfield could do with a stint in behind or on the left, obviously this is entirely dependent on seeing if there is someone in the squad that can do a shift or two as an emergency striker (not keen on Juke, Hogan or Tyler Roberts tbh) and the only two that spring to mind are Dembele or Hall. I know that may seem a bit radical but other clubs do do it short term and seem to manage ok. Anyway that aside I really would like to see Hall starting now, up front or otherwise, nothing against any player, just that in regard to the above think his pace may be a difference maker we desperately need.
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Post by sapfo on Mar 16, 2024 20:06:11 GMT
Stansfield was making runs early on when their line was high but between Miyoshi & Laird were passing it between themselves and not seeing further ahead.
Demebele can play as a striker. Probably suit him better in this side.
Bacuna is mercurial and causes problems and I do like him.
Another problem we have is Miyoshi, Keshi, and JJ’s best form have all come from behind the striker this season.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 20:19:24 GMT
Stansfield was making runs early on when their line was high but between Miyoshi & Laird were passing it between themselves and not seeing further ahead. Exactly that, nice football and all but the several seconds it takes gives the opposition time to get players back crowding out passing lines, sometimes better to play it first time into the forward before the opposition get set.
Demebele can play as a striker. Probably suit him better in this side. Less defensive responsbility too though he'd still be expected to press, as you say he has done it before, though doesn't offer any more physicality than Stansfield, not that Hall is exactly in training for MMA either.
Bacuna is mercurial and causes problems and I do like him. Thought he really grafted today too, obviously must have been frustrated but just kept plugging away, he'll do for me.Another problem we have is Miyoshi, Keshi, and JJ’s best form have all come from behind the striker this season. Keshi I think is out the picture now, Miyoshi said when he came he prefers playing on the right and is probably the best option there, yes he can do well centrally too but so can others. JJ as said even when Eustace was here, he really wants to be an 8, he can play 6 and 10 well and even put a shift in wide but 8 is where he belongs imo, trouble is it's hard to fit him in there without changing formation which Mowbray seems pretty fixed upon, though may get a chance next game with Paik and Bacuna on international duty.
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Post by bubba on Mar 16, 2024 21:32:02 GMT
Better performance. 1 point from 18 says everything though. Nothing to add. Still more likely to survive than drop. 60/40. Mainly because there are probably 3 teams just worse than us, on balance. Bubba, it was no personal attack earlier*, just a question. Abhor is really a very strong word, to be fair. So I was just honestly asking you “I hope those comments are not directed to anyone on this message board? OK, so re-read it now and I accept that I misinterpreted your main point (as you have misinterpreted me*). Hands up.
Sorry wasn't ignoring you I missed this earlier.
Thanks and I accept it wasn't meant as an attack but in a 300 word post you singled out these 19 words
I absolutely abhor the kneejerk nature of many fans changing their mind from game to game, result to result
that were not in any way representative of the main gist of the post and made your response all about them. Furthermore I was saying I abhored the kneejerk nature of changing opinions on the flip of a single result which absolutely is not the same as saying I abhor the people which is what you twisted it to mean. So in the end your question, which was worded like a statement but just had a question mark tagged on the end of it, was more than unfair, it was untrue. I have absolutely no problem anybody having different opinions or disagreeing with mine, but I draw the line when I'm unfairly criticised for things I haven't said or done, whether the attack is intentional or not.
Finally to top it all, even if you still disliked the word abhor, the only reason for my even mentioning it was to highlight that I could be accused of doing somethng I don't like when others do it by changing my mind based on just the boro game, in other words saying I could be accused of being slightly hypocritical, so was in fact having a go at myself for that in a light hearted way.
As said I accept now it wasn't meant that way because earlier I was thinking you've had to work very hard to find offence in that post, but water under the bridge and I abhor that we lost today.
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Post by brightside on Mar 16, 2024 23:41:15 GMT
All above comments noted. But sorry I have seen enough now to accept that we are going down. All is conspiring against us and fate and destiny are taking us to league 1. I have absolutely nothing left in me than to accept this now. We have a team of absolute losers and a management team that is struggling to get an average squad of players to do the basics right. Even Rooney would have got more points than Venus. He must be having a laugh. I look across the expressway and see them getting everything going their way. I absolutely hate football at the moment and am beginning to detest supporting blues. As Dan says it’s the hope that kills you. I now have no hope so maybe I can start to live without all of this. It looks like the end of renewing my ST because I am not going to watch league 1 football at my age. Hopefully I am very wrong but I suspect I am very right. Good night
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 16, 2024 23:48:34 GMT
Venus subs are always like for like as well. We chasing a game throw another striker on, today he out hogan in in stoppage time.
Seems like it worked for him at hull and in the last 3 has just thrown juke on with whoever is on the bench at that time (hall, roberts, bacuna) and hope for the best. No changing it up or really going for it. Hall at rb was baffling as Laird was doing well, think he was as shocked as well amount of time took him to notice he was being subbed.
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