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Post by expatjohn on Mar 29, 2024 16:47:16 GMT
PNE pushing for the play offs. Oh dear.
Not a great performance, but they grafted. Bacuna, Paik and Beilick stand outs for me. It's just not working out for Stansfield at the moment.
Defence at panic stations at times.
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Post by tonyhancock on Mar 29, 2024 16:59:07 GMT
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Post by coopobot on Mar 29, 2024 17:01:51 GMT
Same old blues.
No strikers. Defence weak.
Same story every week.
Only thing we can be thankful for is that we still somehow manage to be out of the relegation zone.
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Post by bignumbernine on Mar 29, 2024 17:02:15 GMT
I feel like I’ve been punched in the stomach. We’ve still got Rotherham and Huddersfield left to play, so it’s not over. But my word that is a horrendous loss.
We may be looking back in this day at the end of the season as the time when it got away from us.
If you weren’t worried about relegation before, you certainly should be now.
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Post by gammo on Mar 29, 2024 17:06:57 GMT
No change from when we kicked off (an extra goal better off I suppose). What could have been, though. When your luck is out, it's totally out - the right back hitting a worldie with his left foot in injury time.....you just can't write it.
I think we missed Sunjic chasing about in the middle today. Roberts was awful - his running looks laboured and his shooting is atrocious.....would have been better to start with Hogan.
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 29, 2024 17:07:30 GMT
Thought a draw would of been a fair result. Shit defending for both goals. Nothing up top.
Really think this is the year we drop, getting no luck watsoever.
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Post by dutchblue on Mar 29, 2024 17:11:48 GMT
A lot of graft from most of them. Do not need to see Tyler ever again. Stansfield needs a rest, obvious for a few hames now. Unlucky. But we were lucky with other results. It’s ALL on Monday now, lose that one and we might as well say goodbye.
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Post by bluescharlie on Mar 29, 2024 17:16:58 GMT
Real sucker blow and luck totally not with us for either goals. A point would have been a good platform to build off although we have some fortune in keeping our heads above water for now
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Post by kennyburnstr7 on Mar 29, 2024 17:21:54 GMT
Unfortunate with the nature and timing of the goals but they could have been out of sight by then as they missed several presentable chances. We are poor defensively and our lack of physicality without Juke and to an extent, Roberts, is a major problem . Agree Jay needs a break but the alternative scares me more.Rotherham and Udders matches are paramount now…
Cheers and kro
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Post by bluenoserob on Mar 29, 2024 17:22:29 GMT
I can’t be as nice as you lot, there was nothing there to praise at all. I love my club as much as anyone, but we need to rip this team to shreds. I mean who the hell would you keep? We had 4 games left against poor teams and 4 against good sides. QPR were miles better than us ffs. The only thing that’s been good today is listening to UB40 and Forever True. Simply magnificent.
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Post by bringbackstanding on Mar 29, 2024 17:29:49 GMT
Yet another late goal conceded. Sadly my score prediction was correct. Well Rotherham would like to be in our position, but not much cause for optimism otherwise.
Wonder if Rowett has been brought in too late, Mowbray situation been allowed to drift too long. A wasted season on the pitch but great progress off it. Perhaps another last day special, seen a few of those over the years going back to Orient in 1972 .
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Post by TILTON on Mar 29, 2024 17:30:31 GMT
Drameh needs shooting.
Look at him shaping to jump then thinking nah I won't bother.
Worst case if he challenges for the ball is he flattens the guy who eventually scores a worldie. Right now anything that can go wrong is going wrong.
Will we ever get an away result again?
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Post by honkybluenose on Mar 29, 2024 17:35:47 GMT
The pathetic winter window is killing us.
I appreciate resources were limited but by bringing in three midfielders we ignored the priority areas.
Assume it was a collective decision so won’t blame anyone but most of us said at the time it was wrong and unfortunately we are being proven right.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Mar 29, 2024 17:43:29 GMT
Simply not good enough defensively. Personally I think Sanderson is the weak link. Buchanan is also weak as piss. Bacuna tried but hit and miss. Roberts fuckin awful. Stansfield tried but poor touches and bad decisions.
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Post by dutchblue on Mar 29, 2024 17:56:39 GMT
But if there are a dozen attempts to shoot him, will any hit the target?
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Post by choc on Mar 29, 2024 18:06:23 GMT
Drameh needs shooting.Look at him shaping to jump then thinking nah I won't bother. Worst case if he challenges for the ball is he flattens the guy who eventually scores a worldie. Right now anything that can go wrong is going wrong. Will we ever get an away result again? You can't say that 😅 He's Black 🤣🤣
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Post by bubba on Mar 29, 2024 18:06:42 GMT
That one was hard to take, we weren't awful imo, I've seen plenty awful and that aint it, but it's the same problem we've had for a long time and that I've been complaining about since January, just no proper centre forward and it's killing us. This is why I was suggesting trying Hall or Aiwu up there, just something other than Stansfield who we're flogging to death in a role that's not getting the best out of him.
Obviously Hogan has really impressed in training to only replace him after 84 minutes but for me he was never really a Rowett type anyay just involved because of the lack of options. Dembele has played up there before though I'm not convinced he brings the physical attributes we're lacking to the role and from the limited viewings I've had of Dixon he's not up to it either but it's getting desperate and Rowett imo has to look at alternatives, maybe digg Josh Williams up from whatever hole he was dropped in to and give him a whirl, as said desperate times.
Of course it doesn't help that a defender hits a worldie winner with his wrong foot in injury time or that their equaliser was going out until Aiwu deflects it in, as said previously it certainly seem things are conspiring against us and whether we think we should be down there or not (we shouldn't) the fact is we are and we have to find a way. Still personally think George Hall starting gives us another dimension with his pace and if I was manager I'd genuinely consider bringing Josh Williams into things again for that pace whether either of them go up front or not because the technical football isn't working without that focal point up front to play off.
BTW thought Bacuna was excellent today even without the goal.
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Post by choc on Mar 29, 2024 18:08:20 GMT
6 managers. No different. But still time 🤞
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Post by choc on Mar 29, 2024 18:14:42 GMT
That one was hard to take, we weren't awful imo, I've seen plenty awful and that aint it, but it's the same problem we've had for a long time and that I've been complaining about since January, just no proper centre forward and it's killing us. This is why I was suggesting trying Hall or Aiwu up there, just something other than Stansfield who we're flogging to death in a role that's not getting the best out of him.
Obviously Hogan has really impressed in training to only replace him after 84 minutes but for me he was never really a Rowett type anyay just involved because of the lack of options. Dembele has played up there before though I'm not convinced he brings the physical attributes we're lacking to the role and from the limited viewings I've had of Dixon he's not up to it either but it's getting desperate and Rowett imo has to look at alternatives, maybe digg Josh Williams up from whatever hole he was dropped in to and give him a whirl, as said desperate times.
Of course it doesn't help that a defender hits a worldie winner with his wrong foot in injury time or that their equaliser was going out until Aiwu deflects it in, as said previously it certainly seem things are conspiring against us and whether we think we should be down there or not (we shouldn't) the fact is we are and we have to find a way. Still personally think George Hall starting gives us another dimension with his pace and if I was manager I'd genuinely consider bringing Josh Williams into things again for that pace whether either of them go up front or not because the technical football isn't working without that focal point up front to play off.
BTW thought Bacuna was excellent today even without the goal.
Sorry Bubba, but over a season the table never lies. If you are towards the top then you have been good. If you are down the arse end then you are shit.
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Post by lebanon52 on Mar 29, 2024 18:22:58 GMT
Strikes me that as blues have dropped 16 (sixteen) points in the last 5 minutes plus stoppage time of games through this season we need to do some work on concentration and stamina in the coming weeks. I am sure that the coaching staff will be well aware of this of course and lets hope they have a plan.
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Post by bubba on Mar 29, 2024 18:26:42 GMT
That one was hard to take, we weren't awful imo, I've seen plenty awful and that aint it, but it's the same problem we've had for a long time and that I've been complaining about since January, just no proper centre forward and it's killing us. This is why I was suggesting trying Hall or Aiwu up there, just something other than Stansfield who we're flogging to death in a role that's not getting the best out of him.
Obviously Hogan has really impressed in training to only replace him after 84 minutes but for me he was never really a Rowett type anyay just involved because of the lack of options. Dembele has played up there before though I'm not convinced he brings the physical attributes we're lacking to the role and from the limited viewings I've had of Dixon he's not up to it either but it's getting desperate and Rowett imo has to look at alternatives, maybe digg Josh Williams up from whatever hole he was dropped in to and give him a whirl, as said desperate times.
Of course it doesn't help that a defender hits a worldie winner with his wrong foot in injury time or that their equaliser was going out until Aiwu deflects it in, as said previously it certainly seem things are conspiring against us and whether we think we should be down there or not (we shouldn't) the fact is we are and we have to find a way. Still personally think George Hall starting gives us another dimension with his pace and if I was manager I'd genuinely consider bringing Josh Williams into things again for that pace whether either of them go up front or not because the technical football isn't working without that focal point up front to play off.
BTW thought Bacuna was excellent today even without the goal.
Sorry Bubba, but over a season the table never lies. If you are towards the top then you have been good. If you are down the arse end then you are shit.
I disagree, a football cliche that I hate (there's a few) in fact the table often lies including at the end of seasons, you may have been shit which isn't necessarily the same as saying you are shit.
Another cliche, 'too good to go down' we've all seen it and we all know it does happen.
If we go down it will be because we've been too shit too often, no argument. However nothing will convince me that we wouldn't have finished top half and certainly mid table with a decent striker option and some managerial stability, ironically I think this is the best squad we've had in a decade minus the infuriatingly missing centre forward. There's a few shortcomings but technically this squad is better than anything since Hughton, all of whom survived, despite some incredibly shit managers.
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Post by expatjohn on Mar 29, 2024 18:28:30 GMT
Strikes me that as blues have dropped 16 (sixteen) points in the last 5 minutes plus stoppage time of games through this season we need to do some work on concentration and stamina in the coming weeks. I am sure that the coaching staff will be well aware of this of course and lets hope they have a plan. I was going to ask if anyone had an idea of how many last minute and injury time goals we have shipped. Welcome aboard
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Post by bluenoserob on Mar 29, 2024 18:28:53 GMT
We’ve played 39 games We’ve lost 20 of them fgs! We’ve only won 10 We’ve only scored 43 goals in the 39 games played. I’ve lost count of the games lost in extra time. God only knows if we lose to PNE and then our next game is Leicester away, they’ve already stuck 9 goals up us already. The table never lies, we, or should I say they! Should be ashamed of themselves.
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Post by choc on Mar 29, 2024 18:39:39 GMT
Sorry Bubba, but over a season the table never lies. If you are towards the top then you have been good. If you are down the arse end then you are shit.
I disagree, a football cliche that I hate (there's a few) in fact the table often lies including at the end of seasons, you may have been shit which isn't necessarily the same as saying you are shit.
Another cliche, 'too good to go down' we've all seen it and we all know it does happen.
If we go down it will be because we've been too shit too often, no argument. However nothing will convince me that we wouldn't have finished top half and certainly mid table with a decent striker option and some managerial stability, ironically I think this is the best squad we've had in a decade minus the infuriatingly missing centre forward. There's a few shortcomings but technically this squad is better than anything since Hughton, all of whom survived, despite some incredibly shit managers.
I agree with the striker bit so we have to look at the Mowbray recruitment. Piss poor in my opinion. I have said all season that the squad is poor for various reasons. We still have a chance of survival but it's getting tight. 🫣
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Post by bluenoserob on Mar 29, 2024 18:49:05 GMT
We’ve lost 6 and drawn 1 of our last 7 I really hope GB can stop this run. Don’t we all?
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Post by bluenoserob on Mar 29, 2024 18:49:45 GMT
GR not GB!!!!
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Post by TILTON on Mar 29, 2024 18:53:56 GMT
We have only conceded 6 in last 5 that's the hard part to take.
Only scoring 2 in that time is abysmal.
Stansfield has to be dropped 1 in 12. What is unforgiveable is in January we couldn't see the need to concentrate on striker we then let Long go. Pritchard is a ghost really since arrival.
How long is Juke out, terrible when we are hoping for him to start.
Hogan offers nowt these days and I can't for the life of me understand why they don't just give Dixon a run, it literally couldn't be any worse than it is right now. Laird wasn't as creative as I thought he could be further up the pitch.
I would drop Stansfield, Drameh, Aiwu and Paik for Monday and play...Surely out there is a striker than we can bring in as a free agent?
Ruddy
Laird Buchanan Sanderson Bielik
Dozzell Sunjic
JJ Miyoshi Bacuna
Dembele more of a false 9
Desperate times!
Personally I feel like we are done already. We are losing even the games that are close, we seem to have a mental block away from home right now and I dare say the only way we win at Rotherham is if we are in a better position but we can all agree that 'better position' is not going to happen. Leicester may be our best chance as they are getting jumpy and that's probably where we lose what little goal difference advantage we have as they discover their form no doubt.
Preston, Cardiff and Rotherham are probably only games we can win but we probably won't win them anyways. The pressure on the Preston game is now worse than ever. It's almost like that concert is destined to be an absolute disaster. Not sure many will be in a mood to hang around and party as our slow death continues.
Leicester, Huddersfield, Coventry and Norwich for me are games we will get zip from.
Huddersfield have a good few games they can win. Especially the next two. I can see them getting to 48 points
Sheff Wed have a mixed bag again 48 points easy
Plymouth have a good chance of getting maybe 50
Blackburn could finish on 48 points as well they have some stinkers
QPR will get 50 points no sweat
Stoke also easy 50 points
For me all the others are safe. Problem is I'm not even sure we will get about 46 points at present. Only Blues could have a takeover get rid to the fuucking chinese and have a stadium plan for a massive future and stick a fuucking spanner in the works by going down at first attempt and then we will probably take years to get out!
So fuucked off right now.
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Post by gammo on Mar 29, 2024 19:26:32 GMT
We have only conceded 6 in last 5 that's the hard part to take. Only scoring 2 in that time is abysmal. Stansfield has to be dropped 1 in 12. What is unforgiveable is in January we couldn't see the need to concentrate on striker we then let Long go. Pritchard is a ghost really since arrival. How long is Juke out, terrible when we are hoping for him to start. Hogan offers nowt these days and I can't for the life of me understand why they don't just give Dixon a run, it literally couldn't be any worse than it is right now. Laird wasn't as creative as I thought he could be further up the pitch. I would drop Stansfield, Drameh, Aiwu and Paik for Monday and play...Surely out there is a striker than we can bring in as a free agent? Ruddy Laird Buchanan Sanderson Bielik Dozzell Sunjic JJ Miyoshi Bacuna Dembele more of a false 9 Desperate times! Personally I feel like we are done already. We are losing even the games that are close, we seem to have a mental block away from home right now and I dare say the only way we win at Rotherham is if we are in a better position but we can all agree that 'better position' is not going to happen. Leicester may be our best chance as they are getting jumpy and that's probably where we lose what little goal difference advantage we have as they discover their form no doubt. Preston, Cardiff and Rotherham are probably only games we can win but we probably won't win them anyways. The pressure on the Preston game is now worse than ever. It's almost like that concert is destined to be an absolute disaster. Not sure many will be in a mood to hang around and party as our slow death continues. Leicester, Huddersfield, Coventry and Norwich for me are games we will get zip from. Huddersfield have a good few games they can win. Especially the next two. I can see them getting to 48 points Sheff Wed have a mixed bag again 48 points easy Plymouth have a good chance of getting maybe 50 Blackburn could finish on 48 points as well they have some stinkers QPR will get 50 points no sweat Stoke also easy 50 points For me all the others are safe. Problem is I'm not even sure we will get about 46 points at present. Only Blues could have a takeover get rid to the fuucking chinese and have a stadium plan for a massive future and stick a fuucking spanner in the works by going down at first attempt and then we will probably take years to get out! So fuucked off right now. It's been mentioned on here that Dixon has a bit of an attitude....good 'cause a few of these we're playing at the minute have got fcuk all attitude. For me, Gardner on the bench is a waste because the next game his spot will go to Dozzell - it would have been better giving it to Dixon just in case we needed to win a game and not try to lose one (which we haven't been in that position for ages).
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Post by bignumbernine on Mar 29, 2024 19:48:51 GMT
I don’t understand the logic when people say Dixon has a bad attitude.
Erm… so what? I don’t care if he’s an upstanding citizen. I want someone to put the ball in the back of the bloody net. Stansfield and Hogan don’t look like scoring if they were out there til midnight.
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Post by bluenoserob on Mar 29, 2024 20:09:49 GMT
1 point out of 21 This is dreadful. How on earth are we going to turn it round? Rooney must be laughing his socks off. JE is probably the only coach who could get anything out of this lot. And he pissed me off because he kept on picking Hogan. I just can’t see how we’re going to get out of this mess. We’re building a 60000 stadium and offering us Division One. After all the shit we had to suffer under the previous owners we get relegated under the fabulous Tom Wagner. You couldn’t make it up could you?
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