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Post by blueshark on Apr 7, 2024 8:51:22 GMT
If we are relegated this season it will be the absurd amount of late goals we concede that did for us. I can’t remember a team conceding so many.
The obvious cause is our poor squad and consequently our poor bench.
Other than the legend that is The Juke, I cannot think of one substitution that has improved us either tactically or physically.
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Post by blueshark on Apr 7, 2024 8:53:53 GMT
If we are relegated this season it will be the absurd amount of late goals we concede that did for us. I can’t remember a team conceding so many. The obvious cause is our poor squad and consequently our poor bench. Other than the legend that is The Juke, I cannot think of one substitution that has improved us either tactically or physically. Other relevant issues I guess are poor fitness and/or concentration levels. We have no captain who screams at the others to ‘keep at it’ - think Daish etc |
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Post by TILTON on Apr 7, 2024 9:55:45 GMT
That lapse in concentration is really what it's about.
Two of our players left their striker to score that goal. Last away game at QPR you have Drameh just not bothering to attempt a header.
They are just a bunch of weak minded fools especially away.
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Post by bertieauld on Apr 7, 2024 10:53:23 GMT
That lapse in concentration is really what it's about. Two of our players left their striker to score that goal. Last away game at QPR you have Drameh just not bothering to attempt a header. They are just a bunch of weak minded fools especially away. Bit harsh there tilts? |
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Post by blueshark on Apr 7, 2024 12:18:23 GMT
If only we had a young Robbo screaming at them to keep focused.
The lack of leadership in this group is worrying and not been addressed by recent managers
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Post by bubba on Apr 7, 2024 14:48:13 GMT
I'm still smarting from that 3 game run where appalling refs bent us over.
Sothampton score 6 minutes into added on time from a corner which came as a result of a corner that never was - robbed of 1 point
Hull scored with Tufan using his arm to force the ball over the line which neither the ref nor linesman see - robbed of 2 points
Millwall get away wth what sshould have been a stonewall penalty for us on Stansfield, then to rub it in suggestion that their goalscorer in the 90th minute pushed Roberts to get his free header - robbed of certainly 1 point, quite possibly of all 3
As I always say it's complete and utter bollix that it all evens itself out, it fecking does not and it's moronic to say that it does.
We'd be looking a hell of a lot better off despite everything if we had those 4 or 6 points back. Not giving players, managers or anyone else a pass, we aint be good enough but make no mistake we've been proper fcuked by refs this season and I'm seething over it.
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Post by blueshark on Apr 7, 2024 15:08:28 GMT
Agreed re the appalling refereeing decisions.
Also we just haven’t had the rub of the green/bit of luck that some seem to get. Apart from Stansfield yesterday every time there is a goalmouth melee or a pinball moment in games, it always seems to fall to our opponents. And how many clubs have lost their managers mid term with a serious illness - I can’t think of many, if any.
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Post by gammo on Apr 7, 2024 15:16:31 GMT
I'm still smarting from that 3 game run where appalling refs bent us over.
Sothampton score 6 minutes into added on time from a corner which came as a result of a corner that never was - robbed of 1 point
Hull scored with Tufan using his arm to force the ball over the line which neither the ref nor linesman see - robbed of 2 points
Millwall get away wth what sshould have been a stonewall penalty for us on Stansfield, then to rub it in suggestion that their goalscorer in the 90th minute pushed Roberts to get his free header - robbed of certainly 1 point, quite possibly of all 3
As I always say it's complete and utter bollix that it all evens itself out, it fecking does not and it's moronic to say that it does.
We'd be looking a hell of a lot better off despite everything if we had those 4 or 6 points back. Not giving players, managers or anyone else a pass, we aint be good enough but make no mistake we've been proper fcuked by refs this season and I'm seething over it.
I'd add a point from yesterday too bubba - their first goal was offside. Yes, the EXACT split second he got the ball he may 'technically' not have been offside but he literally stepped from behind the last defender to get the ball which meant he was offside during the phase, not to mention within Ruddys eyesight so interfering with play. Those 7 extra points would point us on 49 now needing probably just 2 more points from 5 games. |
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Post by kevinuk81 on Apr 7, 2024 15:21:49 GMT
Agreed re the appalling refereeing decisions. Also we just haven’t had the rub of the green/bit of luck that some seem to get. Apart from Stansfield yesterday every time there is a goalmouth melee or a pinball moment in games, it always seems to fall to our opponents. And how many clubs have lost their managers mid term with a serious illness - I can’t think of many, if any. Roy Hodgson, Crystal Palace. His replacement has won 1 in 6, they are not safe from relegation. |
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Post by gammo on Apr 7, 2024 15:26:38 GMT
Go to 1min 40secs which is the exact moment the ball is played through to Daka - he's offside AND right in front of Ruddy
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Post by bluenoserob on Apr 7, 2024 15:50:40 GMT
If we are relegated this season it will be the absurd amount of late goals we concede that did for us. I can’t remember a team conceding so many. The obvious cause is our poor squad and consequently our poor bench. Other than the legend that is The Juke, I cannot think of one substitution that has improved us either tactically or physically. Other relevant issues I guess are poor fitness and/or concentration levels. We have no captain who screams at the others to ‘keep at it’ - think Daish etc What we would give for a Liam Daish. |
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Post by BluenoseB on Apr 7, 2024 15:53:45 GMT
Agreed re the appalling refereeing decisions. Also we just haven’t had the rub of the green/bit of luck that some seem to get. Apart from Stansfield yesterday every time there is a goalmouth melee or a pinball moment in games, it always seems to fall to our opponents. And how many clubs have lost their managers mid term with a serious illness - I can’t think of many, if any. Roy Hodgson, Crystal Palace. His replacement has won 1 in 6, they are not safe from relegation. They wer getting rid of Hodgson anyway apprently. |
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Post by bubba on Apr 7, 2024 16:15:36 GMT
Go to 1min 40secs which is the exact moment the ball is played through to Daka - he's offside AND right in front of Ruddy
You're right, this is AFTER the player on the ground has played it, hard to see but it 100% is after and the guy is offside. I've cropped it to make it clearer but there are no blues players out of shot playing him onside.
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Post by bubba on Apr 7, 2024 16:16:49 GMT
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Post by bertieauld on Apr 7, 2024 17:23:57 GMT
I'm still smarting from that 3 game run where appalling refs bent us over.
Sothampton score 6 minutes into added on time from a corner which came as a result of a corner that never was - robbed of 1 point
Hull scored with Tufan using his arm to force the ball over the line which neither the ref nor linesman see - robbed of 2 points
Millwall get away wth what sshould have been a stonewall penalty for us on Stansfield, then to rub it in suggestion that their goalscorer in the 90th minute pushed Roberts to get his free header - robbed of certainly 1 point, quite possibly of all 3
As I always say it's complete and utter bollix that it all evens itself out, it fecking does not and it's moronic to say that it does.
We'd be looking a hell of a lot better off despite everything if we had those 4 or 6 points back. Not giving players, managers or anyone else a pass, we aint be good enough but make no mistake we've been proper fcuked by refs this season and I'm seething over it.
Well said bubbs |
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Post by bluescharlie on Apr 8, 2024 3:17:44 GMT
Faes should have probably been sent off for being the last man. Even Mavididi should have been booked before and he would have had to rethink his celebration to avoid being sent off. I know it’s nitpicking but these decisions are consistently missed/incorrect by substandard referees and it really does have its consequences. The worst thing is they are quite straightforward decisions that shouldn’t be hard to give yet he we are ruing them.
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Post by choc on Apr 8, 2024 8:16:04 GMT
I'm still smarting from that 3 game run where appalling refs bent us over.
Sothampton score 6 minutes into added on time from a corner which came as a result of a corner that never was - robbed of 1 point
Hull scored with Tufan using his arm to force the ball over the line which neither the ref nor linesman see - robbed of 2 points
Millwall get away wth what sshould have been a stonewall penalty for us on Stansfield, then to rub it in suggestion that their goalscorer in the 90th minute pushed Roberts to get his free header - robbed of certainly 1 point, quite possibly of all 3
As I always say it's complete and utter bollix that it all evens itself out, it fecking does not and it's moronic to say that it does.
We'd be looking a hell of a lot better off despite everything if we had those 4 or 6 points back. Not giving players, managers or anyone else a pass, we aint be good enough but make no mistake we've been proper fcuked by refs this season and I'm seething over it.
Well said bubbs The answer is VAR. Why is it still not being used in the championship. |
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Post by Sammy Wren on Apr 8, 2024 11:27:29 GMT
To be honest the squad has been a joke for a while. We have no defensive partnership on which we can build on, no centre forwards and no midfielders who can pass a ball. TM tried to address the midfield situation in the window, as many have argued on here it should have been a forward or centre back, argued correctly to be fair. I have had a feeling we would hit the bottom 3, has to get worse to get better, here's hoping!
KRO
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Post by bluescharlie on Apr 8, 2024 11:39:53 GMT
The answer is VAR. Why is it still not being used in the championship. im fine with var as a concept but the problem is the fools running it. It’s a mess in England as we have crap refs on the pitch and in the var booth. A massive overhaul of officiating is needed. |
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Post by gammo on Apr 8, 2024 11:59:10 GMT
Did anyone see the Wolves goal scored with a header from a corner? Goal given but then VAR gave it offside so goal ruled out even though you can't be offside from a corner 🤔
I think they mentioned 'secondary offside'and I think it was referring to the player in front of the keeper but that's where most players stand - even the West Ham keeper said it was a goal 😆😆
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Post by jaystan on Apr 8, 2024 12:11:41 GMT
VAR is a lot of shite, Refs and associate refs couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery. the lot of em are shite.
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Post by onlyblue on Apr 8, 2024 14:41:36 GMT
That lapse in concentration is really what it's about. Two of our players left their striker to score that goal. Last away game at QPR you have Drameh just not bothering to attempt a header. They are just a bunch of weak minded fools especially away. I agree Tilts it has been the same for all the games I have watched. |
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Post by choc on Apr 8, 2024 15:45:12 GMT
Did anyone see the Wolves goal scored with a header from a corner? Goal given but then VAR gave it offside so goal ruled out even though you can't be offside from a corner 🤔 I think they mentioned 'secondary offside'and I think it was referring to the player in front of the keeper but that's where most players stand - even the West Ham keeper said it was a goal 😆😆 If you look closely, as VAR did, then you will see that when the goal scorer headed the ball it then touches the arm of another wolves player. That then puts the player standing in front of the wolves keeper in an offside position. He was also ruled to be stood obstructing the West ham goalkeeper. A double whammy🤣🤣 |
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Post by gammo on Apr 8, 2024 16:51:41 GMT
Did anyone see the Wolves goal scored with a header from a corner? Goal given but then VAR gave it offside so goal ruled out even though you can't be offside from a corner 🤔 I think they mentioned 'secondary offside'and I think it was referring to the player in front of the keeper but that's where most players stand - even the West Ham keeper said it was a goal 😆😆 If you look closely, as VAR did, then you will see that when the goal scorer headed the ball it then touches the arm of another wolves player. That then puts the player standing in front of the wolves keeper in an offside position. He was also ruled to be stood obstructing the West ham goalkeeper. A double whammy🤣🤣 Valid point re off the arm but they spoke to Mike Dean who agreed to disallowing the goal but only because the player was in front of the keeper and nothing else. He said the keeper couldn't move or see the ball - load of crap. If that is the rule going forward, all that a keeper needs to do now is go to the nearest opposition player and stand right behind him claiming he can't get the ball.....disallowed goals from corners in every game then 🤦🏼♂️😆😆 |
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