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Post by royalblue on Apr 15, 2024 14:18:52 GMT
Not really on board with the players not caring or trying to be honest. I think it is an easy out when results are going against you and is the same for supporters of other clubs. Now I am not arguing that in any particular game, any particular player lacked application on occasion but as a collective I don’t think that is true. For me the reasons are variable and include poor and lob sided recruitment, frequent tactical changes in play due to manager changes and lack of physicality particularly in the froward areas. We have been consistently poor at set pieces both attacking and defending; not had enough goals from our centre halves; don’t shot enough and struggle to break down sides who sit deep and counter attack us. No goals from Burke and Tyler Roberts have been telling and Hogan’s goal scoring falling off a cliff alarming given they are main strikers. We invite pressure because we lack goals. The decision to not beg, borrow or steal a striker in January was bordering on suicidal and might yet prove to be so. Tyler Robert’s is improving and played well on Saturday but does not at the moment look like scoring. I think he is a very intelligent footballer and hope we can keep him fit but it will be next season before we see the best of him. Saturday showed the players do care but for me the difference was getting a couple of goals a head. For once the the opposition were chasing the game and not them. Major changes in the summer whatever division we are in but the faults for this season amount to a lot more than players not caring or trying in my book. So are you honestly saying that you haven't seen a lack of commitment in games this season? Because I have. Cardiff the most recent. I agree with you regarding other issues you raise but Hogan for one is not interested. Others have had questionable attitude at various parts of the season. Some have pointed out that we haven't faced one pen this season so that must point to our defensive play being world class or.......... something else.Pretty much yes I am. The idea that collectively the players don't care or try is an overgeneralization to me, born of frustration and giving way to anger. I understand the emotion but not the reasoning, or more accurately, the lack of it. We have been poor in some games and Cardiff was an example but this was not in my view due to lack of commitment. We could not break Cardiff down who just sat deep and frustrated the hell out of us. We lacked the pace, the guile and the physicality to trouble them and then added insult to injury by gifting them a soft goal. My big fear is that Rotherham and Huddersfield will do the same. You mention individual players such as Hogan. He is not all the players for a start but he is to my mind one who has lost all confidence. Is that the same as not caring? I am not sure it is but of course it is a matter of opinion rather than fact. My point is that there are multiple reasons for our poor performances when they occur and blaming the players collectively is in my book based on emotional reasoning, inaccurate analysis and a simplistic optic. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. PS. I hope you have not cursed us now mentioning the penalty situation.
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Post by choc on Apr 15, 2024 14:50:23 GMT
So are you honestly saying that you haven't seen a lack of commitment in games this season? Because I have. Cardiff the most recent. I agree with you regarding other issues you raise but Hogan for one is not interested. Others have had questionable attitude at various parts of the season. Some have pointed out that we haven't faced one pen this season so that must point to our defensive play being world class or.......... something else. Pretty much yes I am. The idea that collectively the players don't care or try is an overgeneralization to me, born of frustration and giving way to anger. I understand the emotion but not the reasoning, or more accurately, the lack of it. We have been poor in some games and Cardiff was an example but this was not in my view due to lack of commitment. We could not break Cardiff down who just sat deep and frustrated the hell out of us. We lacked the pace, the guile and the physicality to trouble them and then added insult to injury by gifting them a soft goal. My big fear is that Rotherham and Huddersfield will do the same. You mention individual players such as Hogan. He is not all the players for a start but he is to my mind one who has lost all confidence. Is that the same as not caring? I am not sure it is but of course it is a matter of opinion rather than fact. My point is that there are multiple reasons for our poor performances when they occur and blaming the players collectively is in my book based on emotional reasoning, inaccurate analysis and a simplistic optic. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. PS. I hope you have not cursed us now mentioning the penalty situation. I'm not saying it has been the whole team on any given performance but if you get 3-4 players or more in a side that aren't committed in a game then that has a massive effect on the 'collective' performance. How do you know that Hogan is lacking in confidence. We hear this all the time about him with no evidence. How long do we or the rest of the footballing world wait for him to have confidence. I should have used this years ago when facing 16 year-old's in the classroom telling colleague 'sorry just cant do it today, lost confidence, can you cover for me' The quicker he, and others, are out of our club, the better. I know its all opinions 😁
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Post by cnote on Apr 15, 2024 20:03:44 GMT
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Post by choc on Apr 16, 2024 8:24:55 GMT
10 weeks. I think, you can safely double that.
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