BBC Is it possible to be any more biased towards the Labour.

[bluenoserob]

It’s only just started, and all the BBC News are doing there utmost to become a party political broadcast for the Labour Party.
Do they ever employ anyone who hasn’t got extreme left wing views?

[Bluenose_68]

Id argue Laura Kuesenburg is very very pro tory. shes literally become dominic cummings mouth piece the last few weeks

[bluenoserob]

Really?
I wonder how on earth she infiltrated the red army in the Beeb?
Clever girl.

[Deleted]

Oct 31, 2019 13:48:39 GMT bluenoserob said:

It’s only just started, and all the BBC News are doing there utmost to become a party political broadcast for the Labour Party.
Do they ever employ anyone who hasn’t got extreme left wing views?

It’s because all of the right-wing journalists have already got jobs at the Daily Mail, Daily Express, Sun, Telegraph, Times, ITV and Sky.

[bluenoserob]

Not Channel 4 though.
They’re more left wing than Stalin!

[Deleted]

So you’re saying that it’s OK for most of the mainstream press and two main channels to be biased towards the right, but not for two other main channels and the Guardian and Mirror to be left-wing biased?

Not that the BBC are, and Kuenssberg is prime evidence of that.

[bluenoserob]

Calm down, calm down.
Firstly who is the other mainstream channel?
Channel 5? You can not be serious!
No Will you are missing my point.
All channels should give equal coverage to both Labour and Conservatives.
In all honesty in my opinion the other political party’s don’t really come into it. My opinion Will, my opinion.
My point about the BBC is they are a worldwide channel with tons of clout , they charge us all £175 per year to watch them on our sets.
They should not be biased towards one party.
Question Time is a prime example of this.
The audience to this programme is packed with left wing socialists.
This is typical of the political policy of the company.
If I want to read a Tory view, I will purchase the Daily Mail, the Daily Express etc.
If I wish to read a left wing view I purchase the Guadian or the Mirror.
The BBC are biased in their reporting towards the left.
They are the number one company at ticking boxes to achieve political correctness, obviously the Tory reporter is a box ticked
Overall they need to tick a good few boxes of their own.

[Bluenose_68]

Its interesting the criticism of BBC QT. There is also a very similar argument from the other side about the amount of right wing panelists, 'mysteriously funded thinktank reps' and audience members........perhaps the show is built to be provocative for viewing nos


Also like with MOTD- the Beeb is always criticized to being biased against everybodies team....thats a great example of it being impartial

[Deleted]

I stopped watching QT because of the large number of Brexiteers that were in the audience.

Sky is a far bigger channel than Channel 5.

And I am completely calm - I’m used to the right-wing bias in the British media and also the completely false accusations about left-wing bias at the BBC, and realise that that will continue no matter what I say. Why get upset about something you can do nothing about?

Which is why I’m completely calm about Johnson’s forthcoming victory, the hard Brexit that will follow and the damage that will be done to the future prospects of the the UK. I’ll be a pile of ashes long before that damage is repaired, but there’s fcuk all I can do about it.

[cassano]

Nov 1, 2019 10:08:29 GMT @will said:

I stopped watching QT because of the large number of Brexiteers that were in the audience.

Sky is a far bigger channel than Channel 5.

And I am completely calm - I’m used to the right-wing bias in the British media and also the completely false accusations about left-wing bias at the BBC, and realise that that will continue no matter what I say. Why get upset about something you can do nothing about?

Which is why I’m completely calm about Johnson’s forthcoming victory, the hard Brexit that will follow and the damage that will be done to the future prospects of the the UK. I’ll be a pile of ashes long before that damage is repaired, but there’s fcuk all I can do about it.

Fecking hell I agree with this.
WTF

[leather]

Nov 1, 2019 10:08:29 GMT @will said:

I stopped watching QT because of the large number of Brexiteers that were in the audience.

Sky is a far bigger channel than Channel 5.

And I am completely calm - I’m used to the right-wing bias in the British media and also the completely false accusations about left-wing bias at the BBC, and realise that that will continue no matter what I say. Why get upset about something you can do nothing about?

Which is why I’m completely calm about Johnson’s forthcoming victory, the hard Brexit that will follow and the damage that will be done to the future prospects of the the UK. I’ll be a pile of ashes long before that damage is repaired, but there’s fcuk all I can do about it.

Bore off Will, ur a retired teacher not a politics & economic mastermind ffs. 🤔🤔🤔🤣

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Nov 20, 2019 14:07:53 GMT leather said:

Nov 1, 2019 10:08:29 GMT @will said:

I stopped watching QT because of the large number of Brexiteers that were in the audience.

Sky is a far bigger channel than Channel 5.

And I am completely calm - I’m used to the right-wing bias in the British media and also the completely false accusations about left-wing bias at the BBC, and realise that that will continue no matter what I say. Why get upset about something you can do nothing about?

Which is why I’m completely calm about Johnson’s forthcoming victory, the hard Brexit that will follow and the damage that will be done to the future prospects of the the UK. I’ll be a pile of ashes long before that damage is repaired, but there’s fcuk all I can do about it.

Bore off Will, ur a retired teacher not a politics & economic mastermind ffs. 🤔🤔🤔🤣

“Bore off”! 😂 I don’t come on here to entertain anyone other than myself! 😆 

The thing is Lev, you don’t have to be a “politics & economic mastermind” to know that damage is going to be done to the country when Johnson wins his inevitable victory. You just have to be able to read what the real politics & economics masterminds have said. You know those “experts” that Gove told us everyone was tired (bored?) of listening to. The ones which the Brexiteers ignored on Referendum Day.

As I said to bluenoserob the other day, you’ve made your bed, now prepare to lie in it.

[leather]

All the scare stories are bullshit mate. Theyre even saying the economy will be given a major boost now once were out. Germany and the EU are in decline while were growing.

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Nov 20, 2019 17:51:09 GMT leather said:

All the scare stories are bullshit mate. Theyre even saying the economy will be given a major boost now once were out. Germany and the EU are in decline while were growing.

Who are “they”? Johnson and Farage?

The CBI don’t think so and neither do the Bank of England.

What is the point of bullshitting scare stories now it’s all done and dusted? Are the CBI really trying to get Corbyn into Downing Street?

Just my opinion, and very boring it may be. But it’s a genuinely held one.

For the benefit of the younger generations, I hope I’m wrong, I really do.

But I don’t think I am.

[leather]

What are you scared of Will? What is it all you lefty remainer types are scared of? We will prosper out of the empire building eu.

[Deleted]

Years and years of protracted negotiations, first with the EU, and then with other countries.

The possibility of Johnson reneging on the deal he got with the EU and us leaving without a deal.

The lack of opportunity for our citizens to have free movement.

Our inability to fill jobs in essential services like the NHS.

The dismantling of laws regarding the environment and working conditions.

The dismantling of the NHS.

It’s not a right wing left wing thing Lev.

It’s just a concern for one’s fellow man.

[Deleted]

OK, I’ve answered your questions.

Now, why did you vote leave?

[Deleted]

Nov 20, 2019 18:46:05 GMT @will said:

Years and years of protracted negociations, first with the EU, and then with other countries.

The possibility of Johnson reneging on the deal he got with the EU and us leaving without a deal.

The lack of opportunity for our citizens to have free movement.

Our inability to fill jobs in essential services like the NHS.

The dismantling of laws regarding the environment and working conditions.

The dismantling of the NHS.

It’s not a right wing left wing thing Lev.

It’s just a concern for one’s fellow man.

Spell check lol

I hope you ain’t got any loved ones who you want to treat when you pass and that your house isn’t worth a small fortune because your mate corbs is going to swoop in and take most of the proceeds!!!!

Socialism doesn’t work especially in the extremes of this fool.

Why does consumer capitalism work?

It’s simple, we live in a country where over the last 40 years women have been empowered to work and free themselves from the control of men to have their own money. Take a look round town it’s saturated with women they love spending. Even modern TV is littered with programming geared for women. When I grew up on 3 channels we watched what dad wanted.

Dad used to give my mom keep and spend not much else.

It’s also an achievement for the UK to have such low unemployment given the fact that women only used to work part time if working at all. The service industry nature of the uk is grown from consumer capitalism.

Corbs wants to rip that all up and turn us into a nation of people who want to scrounge of the successes of the rich people who strive to succeed.

He bleats on about the billionaires. There are only 50 in the UK.

The NHS obsession is a cover story it’s been a mess my entire life regardless who holds the purse strings.

I actually want Scotland to leave maybe you can fcuk off up there!!!

[leather]

Nov 20, 2019 19:52:31 GMT @will said:

OK, I’ve answered your questions.

Now, why did you vote leave?

Many reasons mate, mainly due to immigration that merkel was responsible for. The strengthening and adoptation of eu rules (degrading of sovereignty). The idea of contributing billions into a united states of europe under a federalistic eu that cant even get their accounts signed off disgusts me. Its corrupt Will just look at the people theyve appointed as the new leaders.

[Deleted]

Do find it funny that the same people anti US are the same that are happy for EU to come in and takeover lol

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2019 10:39:09 GMT leather said:

Nov 20, 2019 19:52:31 GMT @will said:

OK, I’ve answered your questions.

Now, why did you vote leave?

Many reasons mate, mainly due to immigration that merkel was responsible for. The strengthening and adoptation of eu rules (degrading of sovereignty). The idea of contributing billions into a united states of europe under a federalistic eu that cant even get their accounts signed off disgusts me. Its corrupt Will just look at the people theyve appointed as the new leaders.

And yet you’re happy to vote for Johnson?

[Deleted]

It’s called the lesser of two evils.

I ain’t a Johnson fan but I ain’t a fan of extreme socialism either.

[bluenoserob]

Nov 21, 2019 16:00:27 GMT @kingtilton said:

It’s called the lesser of two evils.

I ain’t a Johnson fan but I ain’t a fan of extreme socialism either.

Ditto.

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2019 16:00:27 GMT @kingtilton said:

It’s called the lesser of two evils.

I ain’t a Johnson fan but I ain’t a fan of extreme socialism either.

I was talking to leather, not you.

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Was you in negociation with him?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Bluenose_68]

Nov 21, 2019 10:39:09 GMT leather said:

Nov 20, 2019 19:52:31 GMT @will said:

OK, I’ve answered your questions.

Now, why did you vote leave?

Many reasons mate, mainly due to immigration that merkel was responsible for. The strengthening and adoptation of eu rules (degrading of sovereignty). The idea of contributing billions into a united states of europe under a federalistic eu that cant even get their accounts signed off disgusts me. Its corrupt Will just look at the people theyve appointed as the new leaders.

A couple of questions....

1) What is it about the immigration you didnt like?

2) Which EU rules have we adopted that you didnt like?

3) The accounts signed off line is a bit misleading....https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

[Bluenose_68]

Nov 21, 2019 8:42:37 GMT @kingtilton said:

Nov 20, 2019 18:46:05 GMT @will said:

Years and years of protracted negociations, first with the EU, and then with other countries.

The possibility of Johnson reneging on the deal he got with the EU and us leaving without a deal.

The lack of opportunity for our citizens to have free movement.

Our inability to fill jobs in essential services like the NHS.

The dismantling of laws regarding the environment and working conditions.

The dismantling of the NHS.

It’s not a right wing left wing thing Lev.

It’s just a concern for one’s fellow man.

Spell check lol

I hope you ain’t got any loved ones who you want to treat when you pass and that your house isn’t worth a small fortune because your mate corbs is going to swoop in and take most of the proceeds!!!!

Socialism doesn’t work especially in the extremes of this fool.

Why does consumer capitalism work?

It’s simple, we live in a country where over the last 40 years women have been empowered to work and free themselves from the control of men to have their own money. Take a look round town it’s saturated with women they love spending. Even modern TV is littered with programming geared for women. When I grew up on 3 channels we watched what dad wanted.

Dad used to give my mom keep and spend not much else.

It’s also an achievement for the UK to have such low unemployment given the fact that women only used to work part time if working at all. The service industry nature of the uk is grown from consumer capitalism.

Corbs wants to rip that all up and turn us into a nation of people who want to scrounge of the successes of the rich people who strive to succeed.

He bleats on about the billionaires. There are only 50 in the UK.

The NHS obsession is a cover story it’s been a mess my entire life regardless who holds the purse strings.

I actually want Scotland to leave maybe you can fcuk off up there!!!

So if youre on 80K a year you are in the top 5% of earners in the UK.  You will be paying £3 a week more under Corbyn.  Im fortunate to be in or around that salary bracket and im cool with that sort of proposal.




There is a huge issue heading down the line for the UK that no one is willing to acknowledge and address

1) We have a whole generation of people who have no assets (living in rented property and have little to no pensions)

2) People living longer and getting diseases like alzheimers/parkinsons that require significant care

3) The trickle down of inheritance disappearing due to people needing to sell their houses to pay for that care  (my nan is a nursing home that charges £1300 a WEEK........!)


So we are going to end up with a generation of people who are going to need looking after but have no pensions or assets....thats going to be some problem in 20-30 years time....

but lets get brexit done right........ffs

[Deleted]

I don’t see how the amount t suggested raises the money they have mentioned.

1.2m people paying even a thousand more per yer in tax only pay a billion ish into the pot.

The IFS poured cold water on the maths and I would rather believe them than something promised on a manifesto.

Yesterday the libdem childcare pledge got torn to shreds on a radio phone in where their own minister for children said the facts and figures on the manifesto and they weren’t he then said it was £4bn during their term and it turned out to be £14bn per year out of the magical 50bn lol

Thing is there is also no explanation how they would continue to pay for it if it continues for 10, 20 or 30 years for instance.

My view is to treat politicians pledges like transfer rumours until sign and sealed and actually happens they are no more than waffle.

If anything this election is shaping up to be the most desperate clamour for votes in political history so the lies just appear to be getting fatter. I dare say Tory one this weekend will have some absolute whoppers.

But if anyone thinks this vote is about policies other than leave or remain then they are dreaming.

[Bluenose_68]

Its somewhat ironic that the Tories are now telling people to listen to "the experts" about the economy

Weve heard them tell us for the past 3 years to ignore the "experts" about the economy because predictions about the economy are always wrong and project fear....our businesses will thrive no matter what and stop talking the country down etc etc

Funny how that rhetoric is suddenly forgotten about when they want to discredit labour...

[expatjohn]

Labour don't need any help to be discredited. They manage to do it quite well on their own.