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Post by quark on Mar 13, 2021 16:57:37 GMT
Nothing AK does seems to work on a regular basis. As soon as we go a goal down we may as well go home. Blame the players, blame Dung but the only change that is easy to bring about and could make an immediate improvement is the manager. He has to go
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Post by bluescharlie on Mar 13, 2021 17:08:40 GMT
Well we’re down then
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Post by royalblue on Mar 13, 2021 17:27:08 GMT
I think it is already too late. They should have got shot of him after the Derby shambles. How we are in this mess with the players we have is unbelievable. AK’s now top of my worse managers list and that is some achievement following Zola and Cotterill. They should sack him now and at least try and finish this awful season with a bit of fight. Get him out now and he can take Dong with him. Between them they have presided over an utter shambles.
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Post by stillcrazy on Mar 13, 2021 17:31:20 GMT
Shambles flatters them.
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Post by barryfry FKA bluenoserob on Mar 13, 2021 17:56:36 GMT
There was always hope that in the past a new manager coming in could and indeed did succeed in us avoiding the drop. But that’s not going to happen this time , we are down for sure. The most pathetic bunch of players I can ever remember. Kranky has been a disastrous manager.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 18:29:24 GMT
Nothing AK does seems to work on a regular basis. As soon as we go a goal down we may as well go home. Blame the players, blame Dung but the only change that is easy to bring about and could make an immediate improvement is the manager. He has to go Players fault today,not the manager.
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Post by expatjohn on Mar 13, 2021 18:52:36 GMT
Nothing AK does seems to work on a regular basis. As soon as we go a goal down we may as well go home. Blame the players, blame Dung but the only change that is easy to bring about and could make an immediate improvement is the manager. He has to go Players fault today,not the manager. Players shoulder a lot of the blame, but they look scared of the ball. So low on confidence, and it's the bosses job to pick them up. 2nd to everything today. Slating the players in public is poor. Say what needs to be said to their faces. Not one of them today showed any form, other than poor.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 18:59:07 GMT
Players fault today,not the manager. Players shoulder a lot of the blame, but they look scared of the ball. So low on confidence, and it's the bosses job to pick them up. 2nd to everything today. Slating the players in public is poor. Say what needs to be said to their faces. Not one of them today showed any form, other than poor. Gotta be honest John,apart from the fcuk ups,we looked ok today.
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Post by brian1875 on Mar 13, 2021 19:28:56 GMT
Nothing AK does seems to work on a regular basis. As soon as we go a goal down we may as well go home. Blame the players, blame Dung but the only change that is easy to bring about and could make an immediate improvement is the manager. He has to go Players fault today,not the manager. So are you saying that the manager has no part to play? Well he does, the fact is he is worse than useless, and his negativity has lost the dressing room, another manager would get a different tune out of the player we have. Rowett and Monk done it. Pearson is getting a better tune out of Bristol City so there are precedences.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 19:39:08 GMT
Players fault today,not the manager. So are you saying that the manager has no part to play? Well he does, the fact is he is worse than useless, and his negativity has lost the dressing room, another manager would get a different tune out of the player we have. Rowett and Monk done it. Pearson is getting a better tune out of Bristol City so there are precedences. Ok,i'll put it another way. You can't blame the manager for the fcuk up's that the players made today. Every goal today was down to a fcuk up by a player. the only blame on AK today is that he picked the useless nucts that fcuked up today.Is it his his fault that whatever useless nuct he picks,fecks up?
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Post by vendeeblueroger on Mar 13, 2021 21:46:14 GMT
So are you saying that the manager has no part to play? Well he does, the fact is he is worse than useless, and his negativity has lost the dressing room, another manager would get a different tune out of the player we have. Rowett and Monk done it. Pearson is getting a better tune out of Bristol City so there are precedences. Ok,i'll put it another way. You can't blame the manager for the fcuk up's that the players made today. Every goal today was down to a fcuk up by a player. the only blame on AK today is that he picked the useless nucts that fcuked up today.Is it his his fault that whatever useless nuct he picks,fecks up? Yes it is his fault when lacks any sort of motivational ability , constantly changes the starting 11 ( how would anyone cope in a job if every week a different set of people worked with them and at different desks or in different roles ? ) and sticks to formations that don’t suit the players he has ( it’s like working in an office and speaking English one week , next week speaking French then after lunch speaking German ) . We can blame players for the mistakes today but given the repeat nature of these “ offences “ what exactly has AK done to eradicate them - boost morale , brought in a motivator , put an arm around their shoulders ( I think not , he comes across as a cold person ) ?
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Post by cassano on Mar 13, 2021 22:10:35 GMT
Nothing AK does seems to work on a regular basis. As soon as we go a goal down we may as well go home. Blame the players, blame Dung but the only change that is easy to bring about and could make an immediate improvement is the manager. He has to go We are down, Today was the turning point. After all these years of survival ( just) it’s all caught up with us. I feel strangely relaxed now, I don’t think the next 10 games matter anymore, the soul has died.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 6:55:29 GMT
Ok,i'll put it another way. You can't blame the manager for the fcuk up's that the players made today. Every goal today was down to a fcuk up by a player. the only blame on AK today is that he picked the useless nucts that fcuked up today.Is it his his fault that whatever useless nuct he picks,fecks up? Yes it is his fault when lacks any sort of motivational ability , constantly changes the starting 11 ( how would anyone cope in a job if every week a different set of people worked with them and at different desks or in different roles ? ) and sticks to formations that don’t suit the players he has ( it’s like working in an office and speaking English one week , next week speaking French then after lunch speaking German ) . We can blame players for the mistakes today but given the repeat nature of these “ offences “ what exactly has AK done to eradicate them - boost morale , brought in a motivator , put an arm around their shoulders ( I think not , he comes across as a cold person ) ? On the touchline he does but,they all seem quite happy in training. We can blame him for a lot but'i'll never be convinced that players making mistakes are down to him.
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Post by vendeeblueroger on Mar 14, 2021 7:53:22 GMT
I do believe that the next 48 hours are the most crucial in our season .
In that time we have to get rid of AK to give ourselves any chance of avoiding relegation .
If we don’t then it just shows that Dong and Co .care nothing for BCFC - which most on here have long stated but this will be the final proof .
I venture to suggest that there are discussions going on as I write about AK and Blues announcing he’s leaving by mutual consent . Whether those discussions translate into action will soon be known .
I would also venture to suggest that a new manager has been identified and could replace AK within 24 hours of him leaving .
I know all the reasons why this is not considered realistic by many on here and share many of them but now is the time for action not face saving .
Will Dong and Co. actually take the action they are discussing ? We will soon see.
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Post by cyberman on Mar 14, 2021 9:00:37 GMT
fwiw in my opinion we are down, whether AK stays or goes, he should've been sacked around Christmas, if anything this board is far too loyal, though thats a good thing, in this instance its very poor judgement, the one serious question we ask, which half decent manager would come to us if there is interference from upstairs? so on this probability, we will more than likely get another yes man for surely a ballsy manager wont take the job on if he cant do things his way
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Post by Dug on Mar 14, 2021 12:41:13 GMT
He stated yesterday in the post match interview he has no intention of resigning.
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Post by BluenoseB on Mar 14, 2021 13:27:35 GMT
Ive resigned myself to the fact we will be a league 1 team since blackburn home game. Few little glimmers wer we might pull out of it against wednesday and qpr, but soon reverted back to type.
Could of easily saved this season and a championship status at several points by removing kranky even now we would still stand little chance if someone new came in. Bu they wont and ther for we are done for.
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Post by monkeyman on Mar 14, 2021 14:43:45 GMT
Ive resigned myself to the fact we will be a league 1 team since blackburn home game. Few little glimmers wer we might pull out of it against wednesday and qpr, but soon reverted back to type. Could of easily saved this season and a championship status at several points by removing kranky even now we would still stand little chance if someone new came in. Bu they wont and ther for we are done for. This is pretty much how I feel. I resigned myself to relegation a long time ago, as it's been obvious that they're very reluctant to sack him and The Negative Wanker isn't going anywhere without his pay off. If they do act now and make the right decisions then there is still a chance we can stay up as there are still 30 points to play for, but the remaining fixtures, especially this run of upcoming difficult games could make it more difficult to get a new manager bounce. Even if he goes, it's even more evidence of them having no plan at all as they're giving any potential new manager a really difficult start.
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Post by cassano on Mar 14, 2021 15:10:42 GMT
I’m accepting relegation, it’s the best way now, the hope kills you.
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Post by bubba on Mar 14, 2021 15:13:50 GMT
Ive resigned myself to the fact we will be a league 1 team since blackburn home game. Few little glimmers wer we might pull out of it against wednesday and qpr, but soon reverted back to type. Could of easily saved this season and a championship status at several points by removing kranky even now we would still stand little chance if someone new came in. Bu they wont and ther for we are done for. This is pretty much how I feel. I resigned myself to relegation a long time ago, as it's been obvious that they're very reluctant to sack him and The Negative Wanker isn't going anywhere without his pay off. If they do act now and make the right decisions then there is still a chance we can stay up as there are still 30 points to play for, but the remaining fixtures, especially this run of upcoming difficult games could make it more difficult to get a new manager bounce. Even if he goes, it's even more evidence of them having no plan at all as they're giving any potential new manager a really difficult start. Yep, next 4 games really difficult regardless of who they bring in, not the first time they've been dopey about timings of replacing managers.
That said Rowett came in and first 2 games were against Wolves and Watford taking 4 points and IIRC they were top and 3rd at the time so a new manager bounce with someone competent and the right character can work miracles, but it's still shitty timing.
It's entirely possible a good man could come in and still lose all 4, by which time rovrum would be above us and still have the 4 games in hand. Whether we stay up or go down and regardless of how well things go or don't on the pitch the fans that go need to make Dong's life unbearable, this fcuker has to go.
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Post by vendeeblueroger on Mar 14, 2021 19:49:51 GMT
I do believe that the next 48 hours are the most crucial in our season . In that time we have to get rid of AK to give ourselves any chance of avoiding relegation . If we don’t then it just shows that Dong and Co .care nothing for BCFC - which most on here have long stated but this will be the final proof . I venture to suggest that there are discussions going on as I write about AK and Blues announcing he’s leaving by mutual consent . Whether those discussions translate into action will soon be known . I would also venture to suggest that a new manager has been identified and could replace AK within 24 hours of him leaving . I know all the reasons why this is not considered realistic by many on here and share many of them but now is the time for action not face saving . Will Dong and Co. actually take the action they are discussing ? We will soon see. At long last they have reached a decision ! I am sure that the BSH and partner personnel would not have been impressed by the poor attitude displayed by AK in recent TV interviews . Also I am equally sure that they would not have been impressed and certainly puzzled by the “ buy many , play few “ that was engaged in under AK . So given that Dong said he regarded AK as his partner it’s no surprise , on reflection , that if your partner is displaying a poor attitude in TV interviews and you oversaw the “ buy many , play few “ scenario then it’s no wonder you have to join AK in leaving BCFC .
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