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Post by TILTON on Jan 9, 2022 22:58:24 GMT
Monday will be approx a third of the way through the window.
Two in Richards and Mengi.
Pretty decent so far we definitely are in need of a striker, central midfielder an upgrade on the likes of Gardner, Sunjic and Woods. Clearly we need that kind of player that will dictate the tempo of the game. Failing that we need a new Savage that is going to get in the face of the opposition.
Still would like two bonafide wing backs if Bowyer is going to persist with the system.
A keeper if we are being greedy.
It is quite possible now that signings will need to be short term fixes if it means a manager change is possible.
Diallo is still a possibility it appears that the link between Fletcher and Gardner is pure gold if he lands this big fish.
Mawson seems quiet I would guess his wage demands are too rich for us so he will need to lower his sights.
Bidwell seems a rather quiet one maybe it's going to bite the dust?
Palmer is probably pivotal to a swap with Dean or Pedersen involved?
Shoretire is probably linked to Diallo, get one or the other scenario.
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Post by honkybluenose on Jan 10, 2022 8:11:05 GMT
Monday will be approx a third of the way through the window. Two in Richards and Mengi. Pretty decent so far we definitely are in need of a striker, central midfielder an upgrade on the likes of Gardner, Sunjic and Woods. Clearly we need that kind of player that will dictate the tempo of the game. Failing that we need a new Savage that is going to get in the face of the opposition. Still would like two bonafide wing backs if Bowyer is going to persist with the system. A keeper if we are being greedy. It is quite possible now that signings will need to be short term fixes if it means a manager change is possible. Diallo is still a possibility it appears that the link between Fletcher and Gardner is pure gold if he lands this big fish. Mawson seems quiet I would guess his wage demands are too rich for us so he will need to lower his sights. Bidwell seems a rather quiet one maybe it's going to bite the dust? Palmer is probably pivotal to a swap with Dean or Pedersen involved? Shoretire is probably linked to Diallo, get one or the other scenario. Has the Sarkic loan now been officially cancelled? If so we have 2 loan slots left but if not only one. I suspect we will use all 5 so it is important to understand how many slots left when trying to predict what may happen
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Post by waggy on Jan 10, 2022 8:54:55 GMT
I'd be chuffed to bits with Palmer and Bidwell. Two decent experienced Championship players who are still a good age.
Diallo would be immense at this level but another loan signing is just putting a plaster over a rather gaping wound.I still think we'll get him though. Not ITK just a hunch.
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2022 9:23:21 GMT
I'd be chuffed to bits with Palmer and Bidwell. Two decent experienced Championship players who are still a good age. Diallo would be immense at this level but another loan signing is just putting a plaster over a rather gaping wound. I still think we'll get him though. Not ITK just a hunch.
Same, just hope it's not to play at wingback
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2022 9:26:56 GMT
Bit disappointed we've not as yet been linked with a single midfielder. Not fair to put the kids in with the form we're in and Woods, GG and Sunjic as central midfield options has been and is woefully inadequate, and by that I mean imo even one wouldn't be enough.
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Post by sapfo on Jan 10, 2022 10:03:59 GMT
We have 4 strikers. 3 of them proven at this level. And our midfield core is experienced. Gardner, Sunjic, & Woods.
I hate to say this, butI’d argue that the coach is not getting he best out of them, & we must ask why?
We’re short at CB, & the wings critically.
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Post by choc on Jan 10, 2022 10:38:29 GMT
We have 4 strikers. 3 of them proven at this level. And our midfield core is experienced. Gardner, Sunjic, & Woods. I hate to say this, butI’d argue that the coach is not getting he best out of them, & we must ask why? We’re short at CB, & the wings critically. So do you believe that our 4 strikers and our midfield core Gardner, Sunjic, & Woods. are capable of getting us to the promised land.
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2022 10:47:12 GMT
Yes quite, I mean if experience was the only relevant factor I'd be asking Lee to get his boots on. The fact is they've been collectively shite for most of the season and individually would barely scrape a below average rating, we need better.
Aneke is struggling against the better defenders at this level, Juke scored 1 in 11 or 12 games incuding al our best performances earlier in the season when we were creating more, we're short.
I do agree another CB is needed.
We actually have 4 first team wingers in the squad if Chong comes back.
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Post by Dirty White Slip-on on Jan 10, 2022 10:58:47 GMT
The team is unbalanced and that’s rests with Bowyers choice of formation and the players in those positions, you could argue it’s not his team but let’s be frank do you want to give Bowyer the chance to create a team with what we have seen so far, no thanks !!! Commons sense and intelligence is severely lacking a mindset of smashing up a McDonalds and rejecting Liverpool who does that…….
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Post by gammo on Jan 10, 2022 12:22:40 GMT
Middlesbrough & Wycombe demanding to be added to the list of creditors at Derby. The EFL are under increasing pressure to allow it to happen which would add another £50m to Derby's debt.
Hopefully it'll give us the advantage in signing Amad from Utd
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Post by TILTON on Jan 10, 2022 13:45:31 GMT
Our central midfield is abysmal.
Sunjic has his days and when we signed him I thought great we wil turn a tidy profit within a couple years. Sadly he has not improved and if anything he has gradually got worse over the last year.
Gardner said it already he looks league one now.
Woods he can impact now and again but far too inconsistent.
James is a kid and he has done well but you sense he is not fully ready, it's embarrassing that he is more or less on a par with these 3 already.
Only having 3 senior central midfielders in a championship squad is woefully inadequate. We would need 4 at worst just for normal football without catering for injury and now covid isolations.
Would gladly dump all 3!
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Post by blueshark on Jan 10, 2022 14:56:22 GMT
Our central midfield is abysmal. Sunjic has his days and when we signed him I thought great we wil turn a tidy profit within a couple years. Sadly he has not improved and if anything he has gradually got worse over the last year. Gardner said it already he looks league one now. Woods he can impact now and again but far too inconsistent. James is a kid and he has done well but you sense he is not fully ready, it's embarrassing that he is more or less on a par with these 3 already. Only having 3 senior central midfielders in a championship squad is woefully inadequate. We would need 4 at worst just for normal football without catering for injury and now covid isolations. Would gladly dump all 3! I think you've called it spot on Tilts. Sunjic has a phenomenal engine but irritatingly seems incapable of picking a pass. He has definitely deteriorated from the kid who impressed in the under- 23 Croatian side and was capped next to Modric in the first team. GG seems to have 'gone' from what I can see in recent weeks. Woods can re-cycle the ball but needs options in front of him and when he doesnt have them can be overrun too easily. Every team needs an enforcer and I think Sunjic is the best we have but we need better distribution and if we do play wingers, this lot will be extremely exposed unless said wingers are able/willing to work back in the Larsson mode.
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Post by bluescharlie on Jan 10, 2022 15:05:58 GMT
Bowyer has mentioned the shortage in midfield before. Even more so now Gardner is injured again. We’re short even with everyone fit. But with the emergence of youngsters I don’t think we will strengthen which would be a big mistake.
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Post by bubba on Jan 10, 2022 15:26:17 GMT
Bowyer has mentioned the shortage in midfield before. Even more so now Gardner is injured again. We’re short even with everyone fit. But with the emergence of youngsters I don’t think we will strengthen which would be a big mistake. Yep exactly how I feel.
I don't tend to go overboard on the kids but have been saying for a year or more I think we've got quite a few with real potential in defence but especially midfield (up front not so much imho) but ideally they need decent experienced players around them in midfield to drop them in for 20 minutes or the odd start here and there, not beng chucked in and having the onus put on them and don't tthink our 3 experienced players are enogh on top of their own game to help these lads into their early first team forays.
Ideally I'd want two, a defensive type that can actually pass the ball too to sit and give that protection and a playmaker alongside that also has at least a bit of steel about him. Given that Chang and Campbell in time might be able to do the sitting defensive midfielder role if we had to go down a loan route for a midfielder I'd go for that one but the playmaker I really feel we need to buy one to have as ours. Options are limited though to get a true playmaker type as opposed to just another cm that can pass decently, and lots of clubs want that type of player. Woods was earmarked for that role for us but he can't hack being pressed and offers very little physical resistence.
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Post by gammo on Jan 10, 2022 18:40:50 GMT
Telegraph reporting that the Diallo deal is still live - its between us, Barnsley and Derby.
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Post by sapfo on Jan 10, 2022 18:59:08 GMT
We can’t just keep disposing of player because they ain’t performing. They need to be made to perform.
And we ain’t a promotion contending side no more. We’re mid table scrappers at best.
To be honest. You can’t blame the players will for being flat on Saturday when the away-side had more fans.
Maybe we need to show the player we are with them? Full support. No moaning. Just give them that confidence we’ll get there, just keep putting in the effort
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 10, 2022 19:09:49 GMT
We can’t just keep disposing of player because they ain’t performing. They need to be made to perform. And we ain’t a promotion contending side no more. We’re mid table scrappers at best. To be honest. You can’t blame the players will for being flat on Saturday when the away-side had more fans. Maybe we need to show the player we are with them? Full support. No moaning. Just give them that confidence we’ll get there, just keep putting in the effort Had a decent attendence againsy qpr didnt seem to make the playere play then did it? Works both ways the players have got to give the crowd something to shout about too.
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Post by honkybluenose on Jan 11, 2022 22:00:28 GMT
Mawson not in Fulham squad tonight.
Probably means nothing but thought I’d lob it in!
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Post by TILTON on Jan 11, 2022 22:11:46 GMT
Not played for them since early November.
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Post by honkybluenose on Jan 12, 2022 8:11:06 GMT
Not played for them since early November. Thanks. Hadn’t checked. I had assumed (incorrectly it seems) he would have been on the bench. Injured (again!)or just not in the squad? If it’s the former then probably a certain signing!
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 12, 2022 17:42:41 GMT
Just saw this one on twitter , how reliable he is i dont know.
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Post by honkybluenose on Jan 12, 2022 18:38:04 GMT
Just saw this one on twitter , how reliable he is i dont know. He usually calls the medical correctly to be fair. Doesn’t mean it’s fine though could fall through on medical grounds, personal terms or because we get gazumped
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Post by TILTON on Jan 12, 2022 20:46:53 GMT
He says he has never got a medical wrong but I know from the past he has deleted several tweets about medicals. His spelling is terrible.
I can tell you for a fact he was not at Blues for a medical Monday because nobody was there.
We are definitely in for him but from a fee perspective it will have to be much lower than they want, especially with him out of contract in the summer.
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 12, 2022 21:03:24 GMT
He says he has never got a medical wrong but I know from the past he has deleted several tweets about medicals. His spelling is terrible. I can tell you for a fact he was not at Blues for a medical Monday because nobody was there. We are definitely in for him but from a fee perspective it will have to be much lower than they want, especially with him out of contract in the summer. Tbf he never states anywheres hes on about Bidwell, if you read the comments below says he doesnt know who it is.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 12, 2022 21:14:53 GMT
True but nobody had a medical Monday.
I think he takes educated guesses. You do also get scenarios where medicals happen and then the signing doesn't even get close.
He has a good chance if saying a player has a medical Monday because if Blues sign a player by even the Monday later he can claim that player was having a medical.
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 12, 2022 21:23:25 GMT
True but nobody had a medical Monday. I think he takes educated guesses. You do also get scenarios where medicals happen and then the signing doesn't even get close. He has a good chance if saying a player has a medical Monday because if Blues sign a player by even the Monday later he can claim that player was having a medical. Might be a stupid question as dont know mucb about them, but do all medicals have to be completed at blues? Just say for example if it was the belgium player we wer linked with could it been done somewhere else? Seen on deadline day ther not always done at a club but obviousley thats down to time issues and a deadline.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 12, 2022 21:38:59 GMT
My mate and Pimo both know when medicals are booked, normally with a good days notice. It's similar when they book a presser. I checked with both today and they both say no dice.
Yes medicals can be conducted elsewhere for practical reasons. It's risky though.
There are instances where a club will book a medic who is local to that player and use another clubs facilities but I think that is rare and when a club wants to keep a deal under wraps.
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 12, 2022 21:50:11 GMT
My mate and Pimo both know when medicals are booked, normally with a good days notice. It's similar when they book a presser. I checked with both today and they both say no dice. Yes medicals can be conducted elsewhere for practical reasons. It's risky though. There are instances where a club will book a medic who is local to that player and use another clubs facilities but I think that is rare and when a club wants to keep a deal under wraps. God knows then, he did say disclosures on it as other club didnt want it getting out so maybe. Well we see in next few days either way i suppose.
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Post by TILTON on Jan 13, 2022 10:40:02 GMT
Hearing a medical is ongoing for someone today?
Anyone heard similar ?
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Post by BluenoseB on Jan 13, 2022 11:05:31 GMT
Seen Dortmund interested in Diallo as well, think that would throw us , derby and barnsley out the race if true.
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