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Post by expatjohn on Jul 23, 2022 10:38:31 GMT
Matt Southall to be CEO. LOL. It's all bullshit. Charlton fan in peace here... You guys need to stop Mouthall AT ALL COSTS! The article with your prospective owner saying he's been mates for about 10 years... Wrong'uns attract wrong'uns! He beloved he was unfairly blamed for sticking in exorbitant consultancy fees? Unfairly blamed for presenting and / or signing off an invoice for £85k on behalf of his partner for work that never took place? (If it did, where and what on?) Unfairly blamed for giving himself a salary that anyone could see was above the threshold for a club like Charlton to service for someone in that role. Unfairly blamed for wracking up ridiculous amounts in expenses and credit card bills? Unfairly blamed for putting the rent for a £12.5k a month flat through the clubs books? Unfairly blamed for telling everyone we'd be out of business by Christmas, after going out his way to spunk the funds that were left in place as a float, on the above? Then there's the small matter of a £1.2m debt, owed to the rival in the race to own BCFC coincidentally (Bassini), that he allegedly tried to pass on to Charlton. Even if a neutral wanted to give him the benefit of doubt for each of the above, it doesn't take an expert to see there is a level of wrong doing involved somewhere. Still can't believe there's been no charges for using those funds or falsely presenting an invoice. He will bleed you dry with dodgy deals! Welcome. To be honest, you're not telling us much more than we already know. Most of us are extremely concerned about him being involved in any way other than the shite-house cleaner. |
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Post by honkybluenose on Jul 23, 2022 11:05:02 GMT
Charlton fan in peace here... You guys need to stop Mouthall AT ALL COSTS! The article with your prospective owner saying he's been mates for about 10 years... Wrong'uns attract wrong'uns! He beloved he was unfairly blamed for sticking in exorbitant consultancy fees? Unfairly blamed for presenting and / or signing off an invoice for £85k on behalf of his partner for work that never took place? (If it did, where and what on?) Unfairly blamed for giving himself a salary that anyone could see was above the threshold for a club like Charlton to service for someone in that role. Unfairly blamed for wracking up ridiculous amounts in expenses and credit card bills? Unfairly blamed for putting the rent for a £12.5k a month flat through the clubs books? Unfairly blamed for telling everyone we'd be out of business by Christmas, after going out his way to spunk the funds that were left in place as a float, on the above? Then there's the small matter of a £1.2m debt, owed to the rival in the race to own BCFC coincidentally (Bassini), that he allegedly tried to pass on to Charlton. Even if a neutral wanted to give him the benefit of doubt for each of the above, it doesn't take an expert to see there is a level of wrong doing involved somewhere. Still can't believe there's been no charges for using those funds or falsely presenting an invoice. He will bleed you dry with dodgy deals! Welcome. To be honest, you're not telling us much more than we already know. Most of us are extremely concerned about him being involved in any way other than the shite-house cleaner. Without in any way trying to exonerate Southall to be fair he can’t be blamed for all of that. He would not have set his own salary If he had a flat as part of his package he would not have agreed that His expenses would have to have been signed off by a nominated individual Not saying he was in any way right but blaming him for his package is about the same as blaming Harley Dean for what we offered him. It is also clear that there was some pretty sloppy governance going on which is down to the board of directors not just him. |
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Post by tonyhancock on Jul 23, 2022 11:09:31 GMT
Charlton fan in peace here... You guys need to stop Mouthall AT ALL COSTS! The article with your prospective owner saying he's been mates for about 10 years... Wrong'uns attract wrong'uns! He beloved he was unfairly blamed for sticking in exorbitant consultancy fees? Unfairly blamed for presenting and / or signing off an invoice for £85k on behalf of his partner for work that never took place? (If it did, where and what on?) Unfairly blamed for giving himself a salary that anyone could see was above the threshold for a club like Charlton to service for someone in that role. Unfairly blamed for wracking up ridiculous amounts in expenses and credit card bills? Unfairly blamed for putting the rent for a £12.5k a month flat through the clubs books? Unfairly blamed for telling everyone we'd be out of business by Christmas, after going out his way to spunk the funds that were left in place as a float, on the above? Then there's the small matter of a £1.2m debt, owed to the rival in the race to own BCFC coincidentally (Bassini), that he allegedly tried to pass on to Charlton. Even if a neutral wanted to give him the benefit of doubt for each of the above, it doesn't take an expert to see there is a level of wrong doing involved somewhere. Still can't believe there's been no charges for using those funds or falsely presenting an invoice. He will bleed you dry with dodgy deals! Welcome. To be honest, you're not telling us much more than we already know. Most of us are extremely concerned about him being involved in any way other than the shite-house cleaner. Still, he should fit in |
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Post by bluemachine on Jul 23, 2022 11:10:22 GMT
Jesus if he owes bassini money he must be a wrongen..
Spoke to him (bassini) last week btw he still is certain he’s taking over and all this is a publicity stunt from ML PR
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Post by tonyhancock on Jul 23, 2022 11:13:21 GMT
Jesus if he owes bassini money he must be a wrongen.. Spoke to him (bassini) last week btw he still is certain he’s taking over and all this is a publicity stunt from ML PR On a scale of 1 -10 1 Most of us 3 Froggy How unstable did he seem ? |
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Post by bubba on Jul 23, 2022 11:32:18 GMT
Matt Southall to be CEO. LOL. It's all bullshit. Charlton fan in peace here... You guys need to stop Mouthall AT ALL COSTS! The article with your prospective owner saying he's been mates for about 10 years... Wrong'uns attract wrong'uns!He beloved he was unfairly blamed for sticking in exorbitant consultancy fees? Unfairly blamed for presenting and / or signing off an invoice for £85k on behalf of his partner for work that never took place? (If it did, where and what on?) Unfairly blamed for giving himself a salary that anyone could see was above the threshold for a club like Charlton to service for someone in that role. Unfairly blamed for wracking up ridiculous amounts in expenses and credit card bills? Unfairly blamed for putting the rent for a £12.5k a month flat through the clubs books? Unfairly blamed for telling everyone we'd be out of business by Christmas, after going out his way to spunk the funds that were left in place as a float, on the above? Then there's the small matter of a £1.2m debt, owed to the rival in the race to own BCFC coincidentally (Bassini), that he allegedly tried to pass on to Charlton. Even if a neutral wanted to give him the benefit of doubt for each of the above, it doesn't take an expert to see there is a level of wrong doing involved somewhere. Still can't believe there's been no charges for using those funds or falsely presenting an invoice. He will bleed you dry with dodgy deals!
Birds of a feather flock together. Tbh I think a lot of blues fans are of a mind that if Richardson dumps Southall they'll be happy enough, but I'm like you, just the very idea he wants to bring him on board speaks volumes about Richardson too.
Appreciate the warning, another Charlton fan has done the same on another blues forum and whilst you'll both no doubt are aware of much more detail than most blues fans, we knew enough (mostly from when he was screwing you over) to know it was a big problem. Unlike Charlton fans though blues fans aren't (imo) as militant and we're certainly not as organised which is a problem when things like this happen and our Trust doesn't receive the support of many fans for different reasons (some justified some not) which makes any fan action fragmented and weak. I fear for us.
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Post by honkybluenose on Jul 23, 2022 12:13:08 GMT
Charlton fan in peace here... You guys need to stop Mouthall AT ALL COSTS! The article with your prospective owner saying he's been mates for about 10 years... Wrong'uns attract wrong'uns!He beloved he was unfairly blamed for sticking in exorbitant consultancy fees? Unfairly blamed for presenting and / or signing off an invoice for £85k on behalf of his partner for work that never took place? (If it did, where and what on?) Unfairly blamed for giving himself a salary that anyone could see was above the threshold for a club like Charlton to service for someone in that role. Unfairly blamed for wracking up ridiculous amounts in expenses and credit card bills? Unfairly blamed for putting the rent for a £12.5k a month flat through the clubs books? Unfairly blamed for telling everyone we'd be out of business by Christmas, after going out his way to spunk the funds that were left in place as a float, on the above? Then there's the small matter of a £1.2m debt, owed to the rival in the race to own BCFC coincidentally (Bassini), that he allegedly tried to pass on to Charlton. Even if a neutral wanted to give him the benefit of doubt for each of the above, it doesn't take an expert to see there is a level of wrong doing involved somewhere. Still can't believe there's been no charges for using those funds or falsely presenting an invoice. He will bleed you dry with dodgy deals!
Birds of a feather flock together. Tbh I think a lot of blues fans are of a mind that if Richardson dumps Southall they'll be happy enough, but I'm like you, just the very idea he wants to bring him on board speaks volumes about Richardson too.
Appreciate the warning, another Charlton fan has done the same on another blues forum and whilst you'll both no doubt are aware of much more detail than most blues fans, we knew enough (mostly from when he was screwing you over) to know it was a big problem. Unlike Charlton fans though blues fans aren't (imo) as militant and we're certainly not as organised which is a problem when things like this happen and our Trust doesn't receive the support of many fans for different reasons (some justified some not) which makes any fan action fragmented and weak. I fear for us.
If this all goes through then it will be very interesting to see who the full board comprises of and what governance is put in place. With proper governance and controls in place the club should be protected from any rouge director. Half the problem at Charlton was Southall but the other half was lack of governance. Richardson has enough experience to do this properly if he so wishes. |
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Post by charltonfaninpeace on Jul 23, 2022 12:30:13 GMT
Welcome. To be honest, you're not telling us much more than we already know. Most of us are extremely concerned about him being involved in any way other than the shite-house cleaner. Without in any way trying to exonerate Southall to be fair he can’t be blamed for all of that. He would not have set his own salary If he had a flat as part of his package he would not have agreed that His expenses would have to have been signed off by a nominated individual Not saying he was in any way right but blaming him for his package is about the same as blaming Harley Dean for what we offered him. It is also clear that there was some pretty sloppy governance going on which is down to the board of directors not just him. You are so wrong... He was appointed CEO with a fake sheik guy(who had no money). He was then given the green light to do as he wanted. He used the funds we had left from the old owner to keep the club going (in club finances) to purchase 7 luxury suvs including 4 Range Rover SVRs and an AMG Mercedes totaling nearly 700k, he rented the flat and stuck us with the bill of 12.5k per month, his wife's company was "used" for some supposed interior design that ran to £85k+ and he paid himself a 'consultancy fee'. talksport.com/football/efl/681317/matt-southall-charlton-chairman-owner-tahnoon-nimer/"Having only purchased the club from Roland Duchatelet in January, Nimer – the majority shareholder of the club’s new owners East Street Investments – has pulled his financial support from Charlton over his spat with former agent Southall, who was appointed the club’s executive chairman. On Tuesday, Charlton had announced that Nimer had resigned as a director, after he accused Southall of siphoning club money to ‘fund his lifestyle’, which the chairman categorically denied. " "Mr Southall has refused auditors to have access to the club’s accounts, and there are very serious questions Mr Southall is going to have to answer in relation to how the club has been run since the takeover and a number of other questions all concerning the club’s finances. “You would think it would be straightforward to allow the auditors to have a look at the accounts, and you’d think it would be straightforward to answer some very simply questions, but unfortunately that’s not the case and we’re having to go down this route due to the simple fact Mr Southall is refusing to cooperate.” www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11144252/charlton-tahnoon-nimer-shareholder-blast-flats-cars/“Club money was used on leasing expensive flats, buying expensive cars, promising large fees to agents and even personal expenses instead of fulfilling the squad and manager’s urgent needs. Seeing all of this, we felt cheated. “It is now clear that our interest and the current chairman’s, with regards to the club’s future, are different and irreconcilable. There was even a competition to win one of the infamous Range Rovers. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8962013/Charlton-raffle-one-infamous-90-000-Range-Rovers-bought-former-owners.htmlHe was involved with the Bolton collapse, he personally misappropriated funds to the benefit of himself and his cronies from us, he was part of the Rochdale shenanigans and now you're trying to play devil's advocate and claim he had nothing to do with any of it. |
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Post by charltonfaninpeace on Jul 23, 2022 12:44:31 GMT
Welcome. To be honest, you're not telling us much more than we already know. Most of us are extremely concerned about him being involved in any way other than the shite-house cleaner. Without in any way trying to exonerate Southall to be fair he can’t be blamed for all of that. He would not have set his own salary If he had a flat as part of his package he would not have agreed that His expenses would have to have been signed off by a nominated individual Not saying he was in any way right but blaming him for his package is about the same as blaming Harley Dean for what we offered him. It is also clear that there was some pretty sloppy governance going on which is down to the board of directors not just him. If Birmingham fans and journos want to believe he is a wronged and ok fella with all the evidence out there to the contrary from both Charlton and Rochdale then that is your perogative. He is an absolute wrong'un and a convicted thief. |
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Post by ramsey on Jul 23, 2022 12:44:36 GMT
Well you are clearly still very angry about Southall. But what do you suggest we do about it? I don't see how we can prevent this guy taking up a position, especially as a large number of our fanbase already seem to think Richardson is our saviour and are willing to turn a blind eye. As far as this forum is concerned, you are mostly preaching to the choir. We share your reservations. However, we are frankly powerless, stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Post by charltonfaninpeace on Jul 23, 2022 12:58:41 GMT
Without in any way trying to exonerate Southall to be fair he can’t be blamed for all of that. He would not have set his own salary If he had a flat as part of his package he would not have agreed that His expenses would have to have been signed off by a nominated individual Not saying he was in any way right but blaming him for his package is about the same as blaming Harley Dean for what we offered him. It is also clear that there was some pretty sloppy governance going on which is down to the board of directors not just him. If Birmingham fans and journos want to believe he is a wronged and ok fella with all the evidence out there to the contrary from both Charlton and Rochdale then that is your perogative. He is an absolute wrong'un and a convicted thief. Might be of interest... |
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Post by charltonfaninpeace on Jul 23, 2022 13:06:31 GMT
Well you are clearly still very angry about Southall. But what do you suggest we do about it? I don't see how we can prevent this guy taking up a position, especially as a large number of our fanbase already seem to think Richardson is our saviour and are willing to turn a blind eye. As far as this forum is concerned, you are mostly preaching to the choir. We share your reservations. However, we are frankly powerless, stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm sick and tired of decent clubs being threatened by con artists trying to make a quick buck, of the uselessness of the football authorities and the harm that is being done to communities. People like Southall, Bassini et al need to go back underneath the rocks they came from. If you want to do something you can always contact the Charlton Supporters Trust or the Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) people (didn't condone some of their tactics like going to protest in previous owners home town in Belgium) and the Rochdale guys... |
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Post by Sammy Wren on Jul 23, 2022 14:56:08 GMT
Welcome mate,
I have a very knowledgeable CAFC fan at work and was given the lowdown on him a while back, it's all out there now so there's no excuses for me. A well known Blues fan has offered to meet him to give his side of the story, so we'll see if he takes him up on it,wrong un for me and Richardson must already know this from the reaction of Blues fans with half a brain. Still find the ball throwing funny at the match during your protests, yes I did throw a couple 🙂
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Post by cnote on Jul 24, 2022 10:58:35 GMT
Deal looks to be off.
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Post by bubba on Jul 24, 2022 12:40:46 GMT
According to Plaister who was very smug and convinced that Bassini was done, like a few others his source isn't exactly reliable.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jul 24, 2022 12:44:52 GMT
I can't accept that the deal, as I understand what the deal is, was ever on.
Some deal, maybe, but the deal as I understand it,I can't accept as legit.
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Post by bubba on Jul 24, 2022 13:59:42 GMT
I think the deal is on, it's essentially the same deal and it will complete but I think it's the worst outcome for us.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jul 24, 2022 14:00:39 GMT
Worse than current owners ?
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Post by bubba on Jul 24, 2022 14:13:38 GMT
Worse than current owners ? different shades of shite but the current owners have always made sure the club is funded and could be held to account to a degree through stock exchange regulations aswell as absolutely needing the club to function for the listing preservation. Also, imo they were getting much much closer to HAVING to flog the club to more serious bidders on less generous terms, which at least would have led to new owners not having one hand tied behind their back.
Now we'll have people running the club responsible for all costs which it doesn't look like they can comfortably afford so will either run it a la Ken Wheldon or just transfer all the costs back onto the club as debt or even a bit of both. All whilst owning their shares in companies run out of tax havens so virtually no oversight or accountability. Plus appointng a known crook who happily fiddled the club he was previously supposed to be running as it's CEO, personally in a binary choice I'd have rather stuck than twisted in the belief things would have come to a head soon enough, but that's me.
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Post by BillyNoMatesformerlyTheMadFrog on Jul 24, 2022 14:20:55 GMT
Deal on deal off you shake it all about
You do the hokey cokey and turn around
That's what's this takeover is all about.
Altogether now...........deal on.....deal off
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Post by tonyhancock on Jul 24, 2022 14:43:13 GMT
Worse than current owners ? different shades of shite but the current owners have always made sure the club is funded and could be held to account to a degree through stock exchange regulations aswell as absolutely needing the club to function for the listing preservation. Also, imo they were getting much much closer to HAVING to flog the club to more serious bidders on less generous terms, which at least would have led to new owners not having one hand tied behind their back.
Now we'll have people running the club responsible for all costs which it doesn't look like they can comfortably afford so will either run it a la Ken Wheldon or just transfer all the costs back onto the club as debt or even a bit of both. All whilst owning their shares in companies run out of tax havens so virtually no oversight or accountability. Plus appointng a known crook who happily fiddled the club he was previously supposed to be running as it's CEO, personally in a binary choice I'd have rather stuck than twisted in the belief things would have come to a head soon enough, but that's me.
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Post by tonyhancock on Jul 24, 2022 14:44:07 GMT
Deal on deal off you shake it all about You do the hokey cokey and turn around That's what's this takeover is all about. Altogether now...........deal on.....deal off Seems like they're still shaking it all about |
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Post by brightside on Jul 24, 2022 14:48:19 GMT
I have sat back for a while twisting and turning over this deal. I hate our owners so much part of me wants anybody but them.
However, after much consideration I have finally come down on the side of sticking with the existing owners and playing for time. Especially as the deal essentially plays for time so we aren’t actually going to gain anything if at all. Bubba as usual, is absolutely right. Hopefully the deal is off. Richardson must listen to reason and ditch his vanity project and look to head up or get involved with a more wealthy consortium when the deal is fair rather than this ridiculous seller friendly one.
I think that with the right loan and free or cheap purchase of a striker and left back that is all we need for us to have a squad which Eustace can organise to finish above the relegation places. So let’s play for time for as long as it takes for this lot to be on their knees. Feck em!
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Post by kal12345 on Jul 24, 2022 16:14:27 GMT
Not too fussed where you file this (possibly up your arses) but I’m a tad ITK on this. As of last Wednesday my ITK (board level) said that press releases of an imminent take over were at best over optimistic.
Contact still hoped something would happen as current ownership is clearly not a project to take us forward.
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Post by blueandtrue on Jul 24, 2022 16:24:20 GMT
All the years I have known PR, he is far from poor but not at all minted, but does have a big ego, and enjoys being the centre of attraction.
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Post by brightside on Jul 24, 2022 16:32:01 GMT
Welcome new members and thank you for your posts and information.
I am not at all surprised by anything you have said and additional validation is always useful.
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Post by gammo on Jul 24, 2022 17:15:35 GMT
If it is off has the club got the finances to see out the season? 😬
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Post by BluenoseB on Jul 24, 2022 17:29:29 GMT
If it is off has the club got the finances to see out the season? 😬 Dan says they have, as have to provide proof of funds before fixtures are released. |
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Post by bubba on Jul 24, 2022 17:37:22 GMT
Not too fussed where you file this (possibly up your arses) but I’m a tad ITK on this. As of last Wednesday my ITK (board level) said that press releases of an imminent take over were at best over optimistic. Contact still hoped something would happen as current ownership is clearly not a project to take us forward.
Got a problem?
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Post by bubba on Jul 24, 2022 17:41:11 GMT
Not too fussed where you file this (possibly up your arses) but I’m a tad ITK on this. As of last Wednesday my ITK (board level) said that press releases of an imminent take over were at best over optimistic. Contact still hoped something would happen as current ownership is clearly not a project to take us forward.
You've certainly kept your ITK status quiet on your other user ID on here, which is against the rules btw.
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