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Post by cnote on Apr 10, 2024 8:41:39 GMT
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Post by thesauce16 on Apr 10, 2024 9:39:15 GMT
A few names I’ve heard mentioned as targets/of interest at on time or another, plus some I think we should look at:
Jay Stansfield
Andre Dozzell
Cody Drameh
Nathan Redmond
Che Adams
Sam Tickle
Martty Cashin
Hannibal
Nathan wood
Jake Cooper
Sam Gallagher
Sinclair Armstrong
Bali mumba
Callum Ohare
Alex Mowatt
Paddy Mcnair
Axel Tuanzebe
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Post by dutchblue on Apr 10, 2024 9:58:12 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_LauritsenExactly the kind of player we should be looking for. Right age. Juke replacement successor. Would cost around 2 - 2.5 million. Yep, the Rotherham keeper is a good shout, top shotstopper.
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Post by cnote on Apr 12, 2024 7:30:03 GMT
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Post by cnote on Apr 12, 2024 7:35:31 GMT
Just realised Leeds sold McGurk, to Swindon.
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Post by cnote on Apr 12, 2024 7:41:34 GMT
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Post by brightside on Apr 12, 2024 10:24:58 GMT
Some great suggestions but how many of them would realistically come to play in league one?
Sorry I’ve made my peace now with relegation . Is this list ia bit optimistic? Premature at least.
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Post by cnote on Apr 12, 2024 14:06:53 GMT
Think of Wrexham, getting their manager and Mullins, to drop into non league. We will be a massive draw in league one in comparison.
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Post by thesauce16 on Apr 12, 2024 17:45:23 GMT
It’d be interesting to see if maybe we could tempt Redmond for one last hurrah! Not getting much of a sniff at Burnley, obvs fell out of love a bit for the game, so maybe coming home and driving us forward to promotion could be a winning combo
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Post by cnote on Apr 12, 2024 22:21:01 GMT
I’d be happy to have Redmond, back he’d be a good role model for the youngsters in and around the first team.
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Post by dutchblue on Apr 13, 2024 4:02:05 GMT
I’d be happy to have Redmond, back he’d be a good role model for the youngsters in and around the first team. It’s really not a bad shout at all. |
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Post by cnote on Apr 15, 2024 7:40:01 GMT
We’ve got to be looking a raiding Man City, for a gem surely? The amount of talent waiting for an opportunity that’s not coming is extremely high.
I know it didn’t workout with our last Man City reject but on this occasion we have money to spend.
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Post by bubba on Apr 15, 2024 10:43:45 GMT
We’ve got to be looking a raiding Man City, for a gem surely? The amount of talent waiting for an opportunity that’s not coming is extremely high. I know it didn’t workout with our last Man City reject but on this occasion we have money to spend.
This is what I'm expecting plus maybe 2 or 3 from abroad far more than I am anything from the lower divisions. Imo our lower two divisions are becoming increasingly difficult seas to fish for rough diamonds. The main two reasons are the ever increasing reach of premier league clubs to hoover up the best young talent both by their own natural reach aswell as simply taking them from other clubs before they even sign a pro contract for abusively small compensation.
Then there's championship clubs increasingly using statistical analysis to trawl the lower divisions to spot talent early, the impendng increased broadcasting payments will drive not only this angle further but also ramp up the competition between championship clubs for the best youngsterss. Case in point Coventry agreeing to Peterborough's stipulation that they could ony sign Mason-Clark on a buy and loan return deal this season. I believe Cov wanted him this season, but ultimately agreed to the terms just to ensure that they got him and didn't get drawn into a Summer pissing contest they may not have won.
Sometimes you may get the best of both worlds, like a prem youngster who's been playing out on loan in div one such as Marc Leonard, but either way, and again only imo, from here on in we're only going to be interested in the very best the lower dviisions have to offer, a handful at most that even remotely interest us which isn't by any stretch suggesting we'll sign a handful.
I've said Leonard, and of course Mason-Clark has gone. After that Eiran Cashin, Harrison Burrows and Kwame Poku and then as far as I'm concerned we're looking at other leagues. The one caveat to that is if some very young players who've barely even featured for their lower division side are snaffled for development here as I can't obviously know about them in the main if they've not played much. Also I can't know EVERY single player in the two divisions, this is just my best take as I see things from what I do know.
I think another thing to bear in mind is that it's been intimated more than once that the club already have targets in mind and have had for quite a while and rightly or wrongly I am of the opinion feelers have been put out (permitted and otherwise) in respect of those targets and we'll already have a pretty good idea of what the bulk of next season's squad will look like if we maintain championship status. I think Stansfield is a real possbility, maybe even probablity but I also expect a multi mllion pound 5 star centre forward and an understudy in addition to Stansfield. Defence I think could see a total rebuild whilst central midfield needs a bit more thought than has gone into it in recent years, first choice but complimentary back ups as opposed to the current liquorice allsorts.
I think in terms of loan players it'll be quality over quantity, maybe a couple of 10 mill + valued players with one of them probably a winger. Of course I'm expecting at least two keepers, obviously Tickle has been linked a fair bit, would he be coming as no.1 or as back up? Would he accept being back up at this stage of his career? About the only position we surely don't need anyone is attacking midfield, even after departures there's a good chance we could still have Pritchard, Bacuna, Miyoshi, Hall and Tyler Roberts all battling it out for one am/no.10 spot.
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Post by royalblue on Apr 15, 2024 11:47:06 GMT
I am in agreement with your thinking Bubba. The emphasis will be on much better quality players than we have seen in a long time. Goalkeepers, central defenders and at least two quality strikers are a must with a mixture of permanent and loans being the order of the day. I also agree that players will have been lined up but for the Championship. I do fear relegation was not considered a serious risk hence the odd January additions with other areas of the side clearly of greater concern but not addressed. Much is riding on these next three games. It would be ironic that the season staying up could really count is the one we go down. Only Blues.
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Post by cnote on Apr 15, 2024 20:37:40 GMT
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Post by cnote on Apr 15, 2024 20:50:10 GMT
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Post by cnote on Apr 15, 2024 21:01:22 GMT
We’ve got to be looking a raiding Man City, for a gem surely? The amount of talent waiting for an opportunity that’s not coming is extremely high. I know it didn’t workout with our last Man City reject but on this occasion we have money to spend.
This is what I'm expecting plus maybe 2 or 3 from abroad far more than I am anything from the lower divisions. Imo our lower two divisions are becoming increasingly difficult seas to fish for rough diamonds. The main two reasons are the ever increasing reach of premier league clubs to hoover up the best young talent both by their own natural reach aswell as simply taking them from other clubs before they even sign a pro contract for abusively small compensation.
Then there's championship clubs increasingly using statistical analysis to trawl the lower divisions to spot talent early, the impendng increased broadcasting payments will drive not only this angle further but also ramp up the competition between championship clubs for the best youngsterss. Case in point Coventry agreeing to Peterborough's stipulation that they could ony sign Mason-Clark on a buy and loan return deal this season. I believe Cov wanted him this season, but ultimately agreed to the terms just to ensure that they got him and didn't get drawn into a Summer pissing contest they may not have won.
Sometimes you may get the best of both worlds, like a prem youngster who's been playing out on loan in div one such as Marc Leonard, but either way, and again only imo, from here on in we're only going to be interested in the very best the lower dviisions have to offer, a handful at most that even remotely interest us which isn't by any stretch suggesting we'll sign a handful.
I've said Leonard, and of course Mason-Clark has gone. After that Eiran Cashin, Harrison Burrows and Kwame Poku and then as far as I'm concerned we're looking at other leagues. The one caveat to that is if some very young players who've barely even featured for their lower division side are snaffled for development here as I can't obviously know about them in the main if they've not played much. Also I can't know EVERY single player in the two divisions, this is just my best take as I see things from what I do know.
I think another thing to bear in mind is that it's been intimated more than once that the club already have targets in mind and have had for quite a while and rightly or wrongly I am of the opinion feelers have been put out (permitted and otherwise) in respect of those targets and we'll already have a pretty good idea of what the bulk of next season's squad will look like if we maintain championship status. I think Stansfield is a real possbility, maybe even probablity but I also expect a multi mllion pound 5 star centre forward and an understudy in addition to Stansfield. Defence I think could see a total rebuild whilst central midfield needs a bit more thought than has gone into it in recent years, first choice but complimentary back ups as opposed to the current liquorice allsorts.
I think in terms of loan players it'll be quality over quantity, maybe a couple of 10 mill + valued players with one of them probably a winger. Of course I'm expecting at least two keepers, obviously Tickle has been linked a fair bit, would he be coming as no.1 or as back up? Would he accept being back up at this stage of his career? About the only position we surely don't need anyone is attacking midfield, even after departures there's a good chance we could still have Pritchard, Bacuna, Miyoshi, Hall and Tyler Roberts all battling it out for one am/no.10 spot.
Jeremie Frimpong, was sold for less than £400,000 to Celtic, by Citeh, now a target for Man U, for £34m |
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Post by cnote on Apr 16, 2024 8:10:47 GMT
Micah Hamilton, 21 in November and still no nearer a regular start for Man City. He’s exactly the type of player we should be profiling for a loan or permanent transfer.
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Post by kevinuk81 on Apr 16, 2024 21:15:23 GMT
Che Adams, still scoring, out of contract this summer, do you think we have a chance of getting him and would you want him back?
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Post by bignumbernine on Apr 16, 2024 21:28:42 GMT
I’ve been waiting for the inevitable Bubba post on this and it didn’t disappoint. Very interesting to read.
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Post by TILTON on Apr 16, 2024 22:15:22 GMT
3 shots tonight scores twice. Nice pipe dream but I think he would be box office for us.
A goal every 133 minutes in Championship this season and about to hit his peak age.
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Post by choc on Apr 17, 2024 9:17:22 GMT
I have no issue with Adams just never a fan of players returning, as it rarely works for anyone.
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Post by supacragg on Apr 17, 2024 10:04:35 GMT
Che Adams, still scoring, out of contract this summer, do you think we have a chance of getting him and would you want him back? Che is consistently a 1 in 4 a game goalscorer, that translates to 10-12 goals a season. Am being greedy for wanting better than that? Does better than that exist with our budget or within our range of pulling power? Having said that I think he has a slightly higher average scoring rate at this level (he has 15 this season). I think I would prefer Stansfield if given the choice due to his age, apparent work rate and dedication to the cause. We could get both but wouldn’t address the much needed height and strength issues that have dogged our season thus far. All the clubs, bar Leicester have high teens and in the 20s goal scorers. When was the last time we had those kind of figures? Edit: just checked it was Che Adams 18/19 season with 22 😂 |
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Post by mark1875 on Apr 17, 2024 10:31:25 GMT
I wouldnt have any ex player back apart from Jude obviously.The way we are moving now we need to be looking at far better quality
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Post by thesauce16 on Apr 17, 2024 12:18:40 GMT
I wouldnt have any ex player back apart from Jude obviously.The way we are moving now we need to be looking at far better quality Che is very different though to the vast majority of our ex players from the last 5-10 years and that is that he is ‘far better quality’, he’s entering his prime, and has scored at the top level. This year he is playing a part in one of the best teams in the division. I’d also take Redmond back. Nothing wrong with bringing in ex players so long as they have the required quality and hunger, and I suspect both of them would. Che, with Stansfield just behind would be a dream partnership next year for me, plus bringing in a striker with some real presence height wise to give us an option. You don’t need a 20 goal per season man to get promotion or compete (though it does help) but those two ‘up top’ would likely get 15 a piece, with a backup getting 5-10 goals and things are rosey! |
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Post by TILTON on Apr 17, 2024 12:24:40 GMT
Che Adams, still scoring, out of contract this summer, do you think we have a chance of getting him and would you want him back? Che is consistently a 1 in 4 a game goalscorer, that translates to 10-12 goals a season. Am being greedy for wanting better than that? Does better than that exist with our budget or within our range of pulling power? Having said that I think he has a slightly higher average scoring rate at this level (he has 15 this season). I think I would prefer Stansfield if given the choice due to his age, apparent work rate and dedication to the cause. We could get both but wouldn’t address the much needed height and strength issues that have dogged our season thus far. All the clubs, bar Leicester have high teens and in the 20s goal scorers. When was the last time we had those kind of figures? Edit: just checked it was Che Adams 18/19 season with 22 😂 That's a broad brush without factoring the most important part... Adams has not really converted to EPL he probably never will. Of his 40 goals for them the 15 this season has been almost one in 2 from a games perspective and the goals per minutes which are now more widely focused on he has proven yet again that 15 goals at this level for him is good. We have to remember to get that guaranteed 20+ at this level is stuff that only parachute clubs can afford. Whilst developing at Blues his last season was 22 goals and a goal every 1,600 minutes so he has improved with age. It's just harder at top flight and we have to remember our current place in the game and what we can afford. Paying more for Stansfield for me is crazy. Yeah he could develop better but that's a judgment call. I'm assuming £8m for Stansfield plus 5 year deal on maybe £25k a week is going to be a committment to about £15m all in. Adams as a free you can probably pay him on a 3 year deal plus year option at around £30k basic with a healthy signing/loyalty bonus and save the cash. I'd love us to go for Poveda and perhaps try to loan Stansfield again as these 3 could forge quite a good attack. I would look at loaning Kieffer Moore if we do need a target rather than two smaller stature strikers. In midfield we need a bonafide central midfielder in the Barry Ferguson mold, a player with experience or you go for an outright standout loanee and that one is Cesare Casadei he's a talent for the future at Chelsea and was on loan half a season for Leicester as they didn't use him enough I believe. In defence we definitely need two centre backs and a keeper and with our full backs in mind these need to be solid experienced championship pro players. Conor Coady could be worth a shout and maybe look at Ben Cabango from Swansea one being a ball player and the other who can lead but has experienced football under people like Nuno. With the keeper I would like to loan Beadle. That's my take on it, not sure if the money will be there like most think so you'll have to sell Dembele, Bacuna and if we get big fee for JJ it gets paid for without worry of rule break. This is of course all assuming we are staying up! |
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Post by cnote on Apr 17, 2024 12:37:43 GMT
I wouldnt have any ex player back apart from Jude obviously.The way we are moving now we need to be looking at far better quality Che is very different though to the vast majority of our ex players from the last 5-10 years and that is that he is ‘far better quality’, he’s entering his prime, and has scored at the top level. This year he is playing a part in one of the best teams in the division. I’d also take Redmond back. Nothing wrong with bringing in ex players so long as they have the required quality and hunger, and I suspect both of them would. Che, with Stansfield just behind would be a dream partnership next year for me, plus bringing in a striker with some real presence height wise to give us an option. You don’t need a 20 goal per season man to get promotion or compete (though it does help) but those two ‘up top’ would likely get 15 a piece, with a backup getting 5-10 goals and things are rosey! I agree it would be a fantastic pairing tbh but I can’t see it even being remotely close to being reality. I think his most likely destination is to one of the relegated premier sides. |
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Post by thesauce16 on Apr 17, 2024 12:40:40 GMT
Taking a quick look, the dream for me would be to sign Stansfield (assuming it’s a circa £6-8m asking price) get Che on a free, and sign Sinclair Armstrong, who I think is out of contract… although it may be there’d be a tribunal fee involved.
That would give us some real options, and with Armstrong and Stansfield able to drop in the the attacking mid line, then maybe another player to give us something different.
As tilts says though, we need to stay up first.
On the sales, if we can still get £8-10m for James, I think I’d take it. He just hasn’t performed recently, and we’re pretty well stocked for midfielders in his position. I’d also see what I can get for Dembele as it’s obvious his attitude is lacking.
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Post by thesauce16 on Apr 17, 2024 12:45:40 GMT
Che is very different though to the vast majority of our ex players from the last 5-10 years and that is that he is ‘far better quality’, he’s entering his prime, and has scored at the top level. This year he is playing a part in one of the best teams in the division. I’d also take Redmond back. Nothing wrong with bringing in ex players so long as they have the required quality and hunger, and I suspect both of them would. Che, with Stansfield just behind would be a dream partnership next year for me, plus bringing in a striker with some real presence height wise to give us an option. You don’t need a 20 goal per season man to get promotion or compete (though it does help) but those two ‘up top’ would likely get 15 a piece, with a backup getting 5-10 goals and things are rosey! I agree it would be a fantastic pairing tbh but I can’t see it even being remotely close to being reality. I think his most likely destination is to one of the relegated premier sides. Show him the project, tell him our aim is promo within 2 years, tell him he’s the main man and give him a contract commensurate to that and I think he would. He loved it here, it’s close to home and he knows the fans still love him. Who knows, but I reckon other than maybe Ipswich, and the relegated sides, we will be the next team in line, so just got to sell him the dream! |
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Post by dutchblue on Apr 17, 2024 13:08:03 GMT
If we can get him on decent terms (and no fee of course) then a yes from me. But I don’t see the need for
“Show him the project, tell him our aim is promo within 2 years, tell him he’s the main man and give him a contract commensurate to that”.
He might be a valuable addition, but the Messi/Messiah he ‘aint.
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