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Post by bringbackstanding on Nov 7, 2023 18:01:12 GMT
Wish these pro Palestinian protesters would stop occupying various railway stations and streets. From the railways to the streets Britain will be free from this rabble.
I see Gary Lineker has backed the pro Palestinian protest on armistice day, remarkably silent about the Hamas atrocity however. Does not suit his virtue signalling nonsense I guess.
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Post by choc on Nov 7, 2023 18:20:33 GMT
Loppy lugs and the organisation that finance his champagne socialist life style are a disgrace.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 7, 2023 18:22:59 GMT
Wish these pro Palestinian protesters would stop occupying various railway stations and streets. From the railways to the streets Britain will be free from this rabble. I see Gary Lineker has backed the pro Palestinian protest on armistice day, remarkably silent about the Hamas atrocity however. Does not suit his virtue signalling nonsense I guess. I get the impression the Palestinians have a good deal of sympathy, at the moment. However, if they start fcuking up the Armistice, then that should put an end to that. If fact, with any luck IT'll PUT TO BED THE FANTASY THAT ALL HUMANS ARE INTERCHANGABLE, AND GIVING PEOPLE A BRITISH PASSPORT & CITIZENSHIP MAKES THEM BRITISH. IT DOES NOT, AND THE LOWER 'NETT' MIGRATION FIGURES THE GOVERNMENT ARE SO FOND OF, ARE IRRELEVANT. This sort of thing makes you British
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 7, 2023 18:25:12 GMT
Loppy lugs and the organisation that finance his champagne socialist life style are a disgrace. Stop watching the fuckers, then. You're part of their audience, to justify their existence
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Post by choc on Nov 7, 2023 21:02:27 GMT
I Don't watch loppy lugs or his girlfriends
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 7, 2023 21:09:42 GMT
I Don't watch loppy lugs or his girlfriends You'd learn things you never suspected
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 9, 2023 16:08:28 GMT
I find it hard to agree with Hamas or a state of Palestine. There people are electing Hamas who have a mission statement to destroy Israel. Our media coverage as with everything is shit, they are allowing Hamas a lot of coverage parroting there lines. Like the hospital bombing which was actually a misfired Hamas rocket. Palestine are the aggressors here but the media will have you believe its the jews. Possibly because theres 5 million muslims in the country who they are pandering to. The quickest way to get this solved is to say until Hamas surrender and are killed Palestine aren't getting aid financial or humanitarian. Then they either surrender or let there people starve to death. This could even be a US-Iran proxy war. I’m not sure anyone can be sure who’s to blame other than to point out Hamas, was the cause of recent developments. That in isolation would be correct but we don’t get to see the bad things witnessed on a daily basis by Palestinians. Anything that helps to bring a cessation of this war is good imo. I’m sick of seeing innocent women and children killed. I’m annoyed with our leaders that fail to see their stance on the war is at odds with the population. Most people don’t care about the rights and wrongs we just want it to end. Unless Israel is accepting to a state of Palestine I don’t see this situation becoming any easier to manage. Every 10 years or so and the weapons available to Hamas and other similar organisations sees them armed with better equipment to the previous conflict. They now have precision guided missiles and are using it on a regular basis in Gaza. Hezballah, the same. I live really close to a Jewish area in London and it’s being good to see a few Jews displaying their anger with Zionism. It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:18:34 GMT
I’m not sure anyone can be sure who’s to blame other than to point out Hamas, was the cause of recent developments. That in isolation would be correct but we don’t get to see the bad things witnessed on a daily basis by Palestinians. Anything that helps to bring a cessation of this war is good imo. I’m sick of seeing innocent women and children killed. I’m annoyed with our leaders that fail to see their stance on the war is at odds with the population. Most people don’t care about the rights and wrongs we just want it to end. Unless Israel is accepting to a state of Palestine I don’t see this situation becoming any easier to manage. Every 10 years or so and the weapons available to Hamas and other similar organisations sees them armed with better equipment to the previous conflict. They now have precision guided missiles and are using it on a regular basis in Gaza. Hezballah, the same. I live really close to a Jewish area in London and it’s being good to see a few Jews displaying their anger with Zionism. It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. Is it really an act of terror, when the IDF correctly state the terrorists are using civilians as Human Shields. Lets not forget Hamas are stiol attacking Israel the Iron Dome is shooting down the missiles. The question you have to ask is 1.) Are the hostages real, and given some have been returned to the US i can only assume they are. 2.) Surrounded with Countries that hate them Israel have had ample opportunity to wipe Gaza out all together- why haven't they , perhaps they not the bad guys and palestinians who elected Hamas who's mission was to kill the jews ain't all warm and fluffy like Western Legacy media make out. 3. That muslim in charge of Scotland got his inlaws back 4. Nobody follows international law but us, we are the mugs.
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Post by choc on Nov 9, 2023 16:32:00 GMT
I’m not sure anyone can be sure who’s to blame other than to point out Hamas, was the cause of recent developments. That in isolation would be correct but we don’t get to see the bad things witnessed on a daily basis by Palestinians. Anything that helps to bring a cessation of this war is good imo. I’m sick of seeing innocent women and children killed. I’m annoyed with our leaders that fail to see their stance on the war is at odds with the population. Most people don’t care about the rights and wrongs we just want it to end. Unless Israel is accepting to a state of Palestine I don’t see this situation becoming any easier to manage. Every 10 years or so and the weapons available to Hamas and other similar organisations sees them armed with better equipment to the previous conflict. They now have precision guided missiles and are using it on a regular basis in Gaza. Hezballah, the same. I live really close to a Jewish area in London and it’s being good to see a few Jews displaying their anger with Zionism. It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. I think most agree now that it was an Hamas rocket that either misfired or ran into Israel's Iron Dome missile defence system.
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Post by choc on Nov 9, 2023 16:35:58 GMT
It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. Is it really an act of terror, when the IDF correctly state the terrorists are using civilians as Human Shields. Lets not forget Hamas are stiol attacking Israel the Iron Dome is shooting down the missiles. The question you have to ask is 1.) Are the hostages real, and given some have been returned to the US i can only assume they are. 2.) Surrounded with Countries that hate them Israel have had ample opportunity to wipe Gaza out all together- why haven't they , perhaps they not the bad guys and palestinians who elected Hamas who's mission was to kill the jews ain't all warm and fluffy like Western Legacy media make out. 3. That muslim in charge of Scotland got his inlaws back 4. Nobody follows international law but us, we are the mugs. Here’s THE TRUTH About the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (A Comprehensive History) on YOUTUBE explains a lot. You will need 40 spare minuets to watch it.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 9, 2023 16:40:34 GMT
I’m not sure anyone can be sure who’s to blame other than to point out Hamas, was the cause of recent developments. That in isolation would be correct but we don’t get to see the bad things witnessed on a daily basis by Palestinians. Anything that helps to bring a cessation of this war is good imo. I’m sick of seeing innocent women and children killed. I’m annoyed with our leaders that fail to see their stance on the war is at odds with the population. Most people don’t care about the rights and wrongs we just want it to end. Unless Israel is accepting to a state of Palestine I don’t see this situation becoming any easier to manage. Every 10 years or so and the weapons available to Hamas and other similar organisations sees them armed with better equipment to the previous conflict. They now have precision guided missiles and are using it on a regular basis in Gaza. Hezballah, the same. I live really close to a Jewish area in London and it’s being good to see a few Jews displaying their anger with Zionism. It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. My question would be, how did they pull it off. One of the most surveyed and protected borders in the world. Guys in sandals, taking out tanks. As for the hospital, my thoughts are: They don't have weapons like that. If they did, it's unlikely they accidentally blew up their own hospital If they do, and they did, I can't see that putting them off having another bash For me, it's another 'the Russians blew their own pipelines up'
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 9, 2023 16:45:54 GMT
It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. Is it really an act of terror, when the IDF correctly state the terrorists are using civilians as Human Shields. Lets not forget Hamas are stiol attacking Israel the Iron Dome is shooting down the missiles. The question you have to ask is 1.) Are the hostages real, and given some have been returned to the US i can only assume they are. 2.) Surrounded with Countries that hate them Israel have had ample opportunity to wipe Gaza out all together- why haven't they , perhaps they not the bad guys and palestinians who elected Hamas who's mission was to kill the jews ain't all warm and fluffy like Western Legacy media make out. 3. That muslim in charge of Scotland got his inlaws back 4. Nobody follows international law but us, we are the mugs. From what I can ascertain, pre 1948, Muslim countries were reasonable refuges for Jews. As for electing Hamas, maybe an extreme situation will happen here. Basically, the usual suspects don't do shit (for us) Living in Palestine isn't all fun and games. Land grabs, denied basic things. Pretty much an open air prison, where they get shot at occasionally.
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Post by choc on Nov 9, 2023 17:04:08 GMT
It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. My question would be, how did they pull it off. One of the most surveyed and protected borders in the world. Guys in sandals, taking out tanks. As for the hospital, my thoughts are: They don't have weapons like that. If they did, it's unlikely they accidentally blew up their own hospital If they do, and they did, I can't see that putting them off having another bash For me, it's another 'the Russians blew their own pipelines up' Who don't have weapons like that? What weapons are you talking about? They didn't blow up the hospital it caused a fireball in the carpark.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 9, 2023 17:12:08 GMT
My question would be, how did they pull it off. One of the most surveyed and protected borders in the world. Guys in sandals, taking out tanks. As for the hospital, my thoughts are: They don't have weapons like that. If they did, it's unlikely they accidentally blew up their own hospital If they do, and they did, I can't see that putting them off having another bash For me, it's another 'the Russians blew their own pipelines up' Who don't have weapons like that? What weapons are you talking about? They didn't blow up the hospital it caused a fireball in the carpark. Oh. I saw a building pretty bombed, and was under the impression it was the hospital in question
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 9, 2023 17:20:47 GMT
It was a disgusting act of violence by Hamas on innocent people but bombing the shit out Gaza killing thousands of normal innocent people is also a disgusting act of terror. You do have to ask the question what caused the sudden incursion by Hamas. I have seen videos of the West Bank where there is no Hamas and Israelis have built illegal settlements against International law in which a settler goes up to an unarmed Palestinian and shoots him in the head right in front of an Israeli soldier. As for the hospital bombing we don't know who did it. Obviously both will deny it and blame the other. I think most agree now that it was an Hamas rocket that either misfired or ran into Israel's Iron Dome missile defence system. Most agree - really? Most actually don't buy that story. Just because Israel says so and their mates who are giving them arms back them. If Hamas is the problem why was there the same violence before Hamas even came into existence and also persists in the West Bank where there is no Hamas. What is the endgame here? If we get rid of Hamas will there be peace? Well the West Bank doesn't have Hamas and there is no peace there.
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Post by choc on Nov 9, 2023 17:58:27 GMT
I think most agree now that it was an Hamas rocket that either misfired or ran into Israel's Iron Dome missile defence system. Most agree - really? Most actually don't buy that story. Just because Israel says so and their mates who are giving them arms back them. If Hamas is the problem why was there the same violence before Hamas even came into existence and also persists in the West Bank where there is no Hamas. What is the endgame here? If we get rid of Hamas will there be peace? Well the West Bank doesn't have Hamas and there is no peace there. If you want to know the history then watch the YouTube video I advised folk to have a look at.
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Post by choc on Nov 9, 2023 18:00:58 GMT
Who don't have weapons like that? What weapons are you talking about? They didn't blow up the hospital it caused a fireball in the carpark. Oh. I saw a building pretty bombed, and was under the impression it was the hospital in question Well I thought we was on about the misfired rocket that was fired by Hamas. The evidence is there.
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Post by cnote on Nov 10, 2023 5:59:08 GMT
I’m a bit confused as to why Tommy Robinson and Jason Mariner, are calling out the football fans to march on Saturday under the guise of protecting the cenotaph.
To my knowledge all of the stop the war protests have being peaceful and the protesters have no plans to go anywhere near the cenotaph. I hope for Tommy, especially there’s no trouble because he himself will find himself locked up again as he’s seen as the main man.
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Post by cnote on Nov 10, 2023 6:06:19 GMT
I’m a bit confused as to why Tommy Robinson and Jason Mariner, are calling out the football fans to march on Saturday under the guise of protecting the cenotaph. To my knowledge all of the stop the war protests have being peaceful and the protesters have no plans to go anywhere near the cenotaph. I hope for Tommy, especially there’s no trouble because he himself will find himself locked up again as he’s seen as the main man. Silly me 😂😂😂 x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1722359864448455166?s=46
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Post by choc on Nov 10, 2023 7:55:35 GMT
I’m a bit confused as to why Tommy Robinson and Jason Mariner, are calling out the football fans to march on Saturday under the guise of protecting the cenotaph. To my knowledge all of the stop the war protests have being peaceful and the protesters have no plans to go anywhere near the cenotaph. I hope for Tommy, especially there’s no trouble because he himself will find himself locked up again as he’s seen as the main man. There has been trouble at the marches just not reported much.
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Post by expatjohn on Nov 10, 2023 8:26:14 GMT
What is being missed with this 'march' is the disruption it may cause on the day of the rembrance service.
The problem with so many of these (demonstrations), is they invariably attract groups, or individuals who are hellbent of making trouble. Add to this the intimation that may be caused to law abiding folks travelling to the service.
Surely common sense should be applied and the 'march/demonstration' held the following week? Is that to difficult to fathom?
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Post by cnote on Nov 10, 2023 11:22:35 GMT
Several tube lines are shut tomorrow until after 3pm. So this should help to keep the numbers down.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 10, 2023 17:42:45 GMT
Isn't the 2 minute silence held on Sunday at 11 o clock. I hear the march is being held in South London actually on the other side of the Thames. I hear there were about 40 arrests in the last march which attracted over 500,000 people.
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Post by choc on Nov 10, 2023 18:44:37 GMT
Isn't the 2 minute silence held on Sunday at 11 o clock. I hear the march is being held in South London actually on the other side of the Thames. I hear there were about 40 arrests in the last march which attracted over 500,000 people. Many will be doing tomorrow 11 am on the 11th. Don't think it was 500,000. I would like to ask people how they feel protesting stood next to a supporter of terrorism 🤔
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Post by Professor Frink on Nov 10, 2023 20:10:34 GMT
It’s telling that it’s the rags like the Daily Mail, the sun and the telegraph, and it’s the woman that pretends to be the Home Secretary that are peddling the noise about a march.
It aint planned to be anywhere near, around the time, or anywhere as big as the bilge they have put out all week.
It’s almost like the want to peddle fear and division amongst the usual lot.
This country should be better than this
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 10, 2023 20:53:51 GMT
I’m a bit confused as to why Tommy Robinson and Jason Mariner, are calling out the football fans to march on Saturday under the guise of protecting the cenotaph. To my knowledge all of the stop the war protests have being peaceful and the protesters have no plans to go anywhere near the cenotaph. I hope for Tommy, especially there’s no trouble because he himself will find himself locked up again as he’s seen as the main man. Silly me 😂😂😂 x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1722359864448455166?s=46Tommy's been compromised for a long time, now. The UK government and it's courts have bled him dry. He now has backers, and he's in their pocket.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 10, 2023 21:13:54 GMT
What is being missed with this 'march' is the disruption it may cause on the day of the rembrance service. The problem with so many of these (demonstrations), is they invariably attract groups, or individuals who are hellbent of making trouble. Add to this the intimation that may be caused to law abiding folks travelling to the service. Surely common sense should be applied and the 'march/demonstration' held the following week? Is that to difficult to fathom? I'm aware of two schools of thought on this. 1. Patriots who intend a counter demonstration, will be on foreign turf. It's pretty obvious who's side the mayor will be on. The press will spin it to focus attention away from the 'Pro Palestine' supporters, and onto what they will call far right etc. The police will not be on their side. Don't fall into the trap. 2. It doesn't matter about what the press say. The optics. That battle is already lost. We saw it during the BLM thing. The same press (government and police) who weren't worried about the optics of children being belt fed 'haircut gang' cock, were treating the riots as mostly peaceful. Make a stand. I don't know what to think. Bit of a tricky one. The same people who want to push the immigration, don't want to mention that pro Palestine is also anti Israel. I imagine they are (probably correctly) relying on their ability to switch people's attention at will. Brexit, Trump, Covid, BLM, Covid again, Ukraine, Palestine all with a good sprinkling of rainbow shit. My advice to the Palestine mob would be don't touch the Armistice. They have a good case, which would be shot to hell by insulting a whole people.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 10, 2023 22:22:57 GMT
Odious politicians like Suella are the ones stirring up hate. Just listen to Saltzman in the USA saying all 2.2m Palestinians should die.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 10, 2023 23:15:31 GMT
What is being missed with this 'march' is the disruption it may cause on the day of the rembrance service. The problem with so many of these (demonstrations), is they invariably attract groups, or individuals who are hellbent of making trouble. Add to this the intimation that may be caused to law abiding folks travelling to the service. Surely common sense should be applied and the 'march/demonstration' held the following week? Is that to difficult to fathom? I'm aware of two schools of thought on this. 1. Patriots who intend a counter demonstration, will be on foreign turf. It's pretty obvious who's side the mayor will be on. The press will spin it to focus attention away from the 'Pro Palestine' supporters, and onto what they will call far right etc. The police will not be on their side. Don't fall into the trap. 2. It doesn't matter about what the press say. The optics. That battle is already lost. We saw it during the BLM thing. The same press (government and police) who weren't worried about the optics of children being belt fed 'haircut gang' cock, were treating the riots as mostly peaceful. Make a stand. I don't know what to think. Bit of a tricky one. The same people who want to push the immigration, don't want to mention that pro Palestine is also anti Israel. I imagine they are (probably correctly) relying on their ability to switch people's attention at will. Brexit, Trump, Covid, BLM, Covid again, Ukraine, Palestine all with a good sprinkling of rainbow shit. My advice to the Palestine mob would be don't touch the Armistice. They have a good case, which would be shot to hell by insulting a whole people. Tony you talk a lot of sense. People are fed so much shit through the media that they are unable to think for themselves and accept it as the gospel truth. The only way to be is to question everything and make your own judgement. Both sides of the argument need to be examined without bias and many sources need to used. Armistice means peace so I'm all for people calling for peace and a ceasefire to all hostilities. It is what our grandparents fought for in the world wars. There will be misguided young gangsta wannabe idiots who do not understand what Armistice means and will only see the soldiers and police as authoritative figures and as puppets (and extensions) of the Israel supporting Government to control the voices of the masses. It is a dumb uneducated society we live in. It won't happen but nothing would be more powerful than a very large group respecting Armistice and walking in silence. It would shut up nasty politicians like Braverman who wants to incite the far right and cause trouble at the protests so she can tell everyone she is correct that it is an anti-British hate mob. The truth is most are not marching for the destruction of Israel but because of the appalling loss of life of thousands of innocent people by bombs our Government is funding.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 10, 2023 23:35:28 GMT
Odious politicians like Suella are the ones stirring up hate. Just listen to Saltzman in the USA saying all 2.2m Palestinians should die. 1:12 in, and I can't take this right now
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