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Post by cnote on Nov 12, 2023 17:53:10 GMT
I have to commend their bravery.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 12, 2023 18:46:02 GMT
I have to commend their bravery. Absolutely
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Post by Sammy Wren on Nov 12, 2023 20:37:06 GMT
Why is it the press never refer to the far left, yet it's always the far right, the so called far right people came out due to idiots spraying war memorials. You lot are lucky you don't have to listen to Khan, truly a piece of far left wing shit.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 12, 2023 21:17:46 GMT
Why is it the press never refer to the far left, yet it's always the far right, the so called far right people came out due to idiots spraying war memorials. You lot are lucky you don't have to listen to Khan, truly a piece of far left wing shit. Are you sure it was the far right that came out to protest against desecration of war memorials? It was normal people (non-BNP/EDL) that came out in defence of the Churchill memorial spraying during the Black Lives Matter protests. Is the far left the same as the woke generation? If it is only the far right protesting against the disrespect of war memorials then that is shameful and a fuckin disgrace.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 8:13:36 GMT
Are they innocents or are they Human Shields for the terrorist organisation they elected? How do you know the elected them or not? How many voted for Hamas? Was there even a fair election or did they assume control? Maybe the kids all put crosses on the ballot papers foo. They would still be innocent even if Hamas was using them as human shields. They must have a lot of bases too that the Israelis had to flatten the whole city . By that logic everyone who voted Tory is responsible for every fcuk up and bad decision made by Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. It is ethnic cleansing on a huge scale and every decent human being can see that. Like that US politician said "Kill all of them". At least she was honest in expressing herself unlike those saying one thing in public and something totally different in the shadows. In this situation i support total wipeout.
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Post by cnote on Nov 13, 2023 8:48:37 GMT
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 9:25:13 GMT
Yes Carol Vorderman is a horrible woman.
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 9:37:59 GMT
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 10:02:14 GMT
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Post by cnote on Nov 13, 2023 10:02:35 GMT
Why is it the press never refer to the far left, yet it's always the far right, the so called far right people came out due to idiots spraying war memorials. You lot are lucky you don't have to listen to Khan, truly a piece of far left wing shit. You don’t have to listen either. Has he ever had anything good to say?
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Post by cnote on Nov 13, 2023 10:03:53 GMT
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Post by Sammy Wren on Nov 13, 2023 10:24:17 GMT
These protests should not have gone ahead, that's what you get when a coward is made head of the MET, placed there to pacify the so called Mayor of London, who in many peoples eyes is a racist.
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Post by cnote on Nov 13, 2023 10:32:56 GMT
Sorry I totally disagree Saturday of all days was exactly the day to protest given what it’s meant to stand for.
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 11:26:12 GMT
Sorry I totally disagree Saturday of all days was exactly the day to protest given what it’s meant to stand for. But there is the problem. There are too many attending the 'protest' that aren't there for peaceful reasons.
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Post by Sammy Wren on Nov 13, 2023 12:31:53 GMT
Sorry mate, it should not have gone ahead on this weekend. As I said the Police main man's a lackey for the likes of khan and his cronies, he panders to them and will continue to, something I find worrying for the future.
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Post by cnote on Nov 13, 2023 13:52:23 GMT
I’m happy that my only wish is to see a halt to the war. I’m glad I haven’t been sucked in to be drawn to support any sides in this spat.
In time we will see who’s right and who’s wrong.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 15:34:13 GMT
Why is it the press never refer to the far left, yet it's always the far right, the so called far right people came out due to idiots spraying war memorials. You lot are lucky you don't have to listen to Khan, truly a piece of far left wing shit. Same reason some of them say Tories, as another word for tossers (I don't think they know Torys were a different party, as opposed to a name change), similar to 'conspiracy theorist' meaning nut job. They don't call Labour 'the Socialists' The socialist leader of the opposition. Doesn't sound good to the floating voter They don't like patriots, but they don't want to say 'patriots bad', so they say far right, racist, some sort of phobic etc. It's only patriots who would turn things around. Our master's mortal enemies.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 15:36:58 GMT
How do you know the elected them or not? How many voted for Hamas? Was there even a fair election or did they assume control? Maybe the kids all put crosses on the ballot papers foo. They would still be innocent even if Hamas was using them as human shields. They must have a lot of bases too that the Israelis had to flatten the whole city . By that logic everyone who voted Tory is responsible for every fcuk up and bad decision made by Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. It is ethnic cleansing on a huge scale and every decent human being can see that. Like that US politician said "Kill all of them". At least she was honest in expressing herself unlike those saying one thing in public and something totally different in the shadows. In this situation i support total wipeout. So if someone landed a passenger plane in Birmingham, and set off a nuke, for what Blair did, that'd fair enough ?
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 15:43:19 GMT
Yes, they are big advocates of mass immigration into the West, but I've started to think they may have dropped a bollock. It's tied the UK's hands from piling in on Israel's behalf
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 15:46:17 GMT
I’m happy that my only wish is to see a halt to the war. I’m glad I haven’t been sucked in to be drawn to support any sides in this spat. In time we will see who’s right and who’s wrong. Neither side covers themselves with glory. Hardly ever, though I was impressed with those Israeli protesters, in Israel
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 16:17:04 GMT
In this situation i support total wipeout. So if someone landed a passenger plane in Birmingham, and set off a nuke, for what Blair did, that'd fair enough ? Thats different. We didn't instigate that rogue intelligence and the United States instigated those wars. If the Welsh were terrorists would you be happy if they walked across the border maimed 1400 of our people without a total wipeout response. What good has millitant Islam done for the world?
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 16:51:53 GMT
So if someone landed a passenger plane in Birmingham, and set off a nuke, for what Blair did, that'd fair enough ? Thats different. We didn't instigate that rogue intelligence and the United States instigated those wars. If the Welsh were terrorists would you be happy if they walked across the border maimed 1400 of our people without a total wipeout response. What good has millitant Islam done for the world? Who decides what is worse. The UK played their part in the slaughter of millions of people who had nothing to do with it. I've no dog in this fight. I play devil's advocate. I'll say that the Islamic culture isn't compatible with other cultures, and I think they know that, too. However, I don't think it's a typically Islamic thing to wake up one morning and think 'You know what. We should go and slaughter a load of our neighbours' It didn't happen like that. It wasn't for no reason. From what I can tell, they've both been at it since the British pulled out. One side is backed by the US, which makes them stronger. Not better or worse, just stronger.
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 16:52:27 GMT
I have said before that war is a terrible thing. Only the innocent die never the the ones at the top.
Unfortunately, for the innocent in Israel and Gaza, Hamas decided to declare war.
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 17:01:09 GMT
Thats different. We didn't instigate that rogue intelligence and the United States instigated those wars. If the Welsh were terrorists would you be happy if they walked across the border maimed 1400 of our people without a total wipeout response. What good has millitant Islam done for the world? Who decides what is worse. The UK played their part in the slaughter of millions of people who had nothing to do with it. I've no dog in this fight. I play devil's advocate. I'll say that the Islamic culture isn't compatible with other cultures, and I think they know that, too. However, I don't think it's a typically Islamic thing to wake up one morning and think 'You know what. We should go and slaughter a load of our neighbours' It didn't happen like that. It wasn't for no reason. From what I can tell, they've both been at it since the British pulled out. One side is backed by the US, which makes them stronger. Not better or worse, just stronger. Tone this is a good vid to watch about the history of the troubles. You will need 40 mins in a quiet place to take it in 🤔
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 17:01:41 GMT
I have said before that war is a terrible thing. Only the innocent die never the the ones at the top. Unfortunately, for the innocent in Israel and Gaza, Hamas decided to declare war. Again. I'm on neither's side. Hamas had their reasons, and I doubt one of them was suicide. The UK is hardly innocent when it comes to declaring war. I say the UK, I mean those in charge, obviously. I haven't spoken to Hamas, but I doubt their reasons were 'Just felt like it'
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 17:13:38 GMT
Who decides what is worse. The UK played their part in the slaughter of millions of people who had nothing to do with it. I've no dog in this fight. I play devil's advocate. I'll say that the Islamic culture isn't compatible with other cultures, and I think they know that, too. However, I don't think it's a typically Islamic thing to wake up one morning and think 'You know what. We should go and slaughter a load of our neighbours' It didn't happen like that. It wasn't for no reason. From what I can tell, they've both been at it since the British pulled out. One side is backed by the US, which makes them stronger. Not better or worse, just stronger. Tone this is a good vid to watch about the history of the troubles. You will need 40 mins in a quiet place to take it in 🤔 Well, I haven't watched it, obviously. Without watching it, I can quite imagine it has quite a bit of fact in it. What I can't imagine, for one second, is that Ben Shapiro is going to give a completely unbiased, truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth version, and not leave out facts which are unfavorable to him
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 18:44:42 GMT
Tone this is a good vid to watch about the history of the troubles. You will need 40 mins in a quiet place to take it in 🤔 Well, I haven't watched it, obviously. Without watching it, I can quite imagine it has quite a bit of fact in it. What I can't imagine, for one second, is that Ben Shapiro is going to give a completely unbiased, truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth version, and not leave out facts which are unfavorable to him So who do we believe?
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Post by choc on Nov 13, 2023 18:49:42 GMT
I have said before that war is a terrible thing. Only the innocent die never the the ones at the top. Unfortunately, for the innocent in Israel and Gaza, Hamas decided to declare war. Again. I'm on neither's side. Hamas had their reasons, and I doubt one of them was suicide. The UK is hardly innocent when it comes to declaring war. I say the UK, I mean those in charge, obviously. I haven't spoken to Hamas, but I doubt their reasons were 'Just felt like it' What their suicide or their people. These savages are hell bent on the fight without considering the innocent on both sides.
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Post by jazzzy786 on Nov 13, 2023 19:04:51 GMT
How do you know the elected them or not? How many voted for Hamas? Was there even a fair election or did they assume control? Maybe the kids all put crosses on the ballot papers foo. They would still be innocent even if Hamas was using them as human shields. They must have a lot of bases too that the Israelis had to flatten the whole city . By that logic everyone who voted Tory is responsible for every fcuk up and bad decision made by Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. It is ethnic cleansing on a huge scale and every decent human being can see that. Like that US politician said "Kill all of them". At least she was honest in expressing herself unlike those saying one thing in public and something totally different in the shadows. In this situation i support total wipeout. I think you'll probably get your wish and Israel will ethically cleanse both the Gaza strip and the West Bank, murder 2m people and take the whole area. They will never live in peace though as they will be seen as the new nazis. Also expect the war to escalate into the neighbouring countries.
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Post by tonyhancock on Nov 13, 2023 19:19:03 GMT
Well, I haven't watched it, obviously. Without watching it, I can quite imagine it has quite a bit of fact in it. What I can't imagine, for one second, is that Ben Shapiro is going to give a completely unbiased, truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth version, and not leave out facts which are unfavorable to him So who do we believe? People with no skin in the game, I suppose. People saw what they saw, like your father. Read books written by people who were there, or lived at that time, and would know. Not really worth asking people who are clearly on one side, or another. You might well get some truth, but the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, less likely. I've got a book which has a section on it, somewhere. Oh, and a good rule of thumb, the older the book, the more reliable. Banned books are a must read. Modern books aren't quite as bad as modern TV, news & films, but there are some books which are either not written as the author would like, or won't get a decent publisher.
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