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Post by BillyNoMatesformerlyTheMadFrog on Sept 5, 2019 13:22:16 GMT
Theres one coming so who will win. Corbyn is a wet lettuce and backed by far left.Boris is on the right.Farage could split the Tory vote and let Corbyn in with the farcical Lib dems helping Labour get the majority.
What's going to happen folks.
I know loads of labour voters who cant stand Corbyn and said they wont bother voting.
Remember mods it's the international break so...........
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Post by monkeyman on Sept 5, 2019 13:41:36 GMT
Nope, this kind of shit is never ok, and only ever ends the same way. This thread will be exactly the same
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Post by bertieauld on Sept 5, 2019 13:45:08 GMT
Theres one coming so who will win. Corbyn is a wet lettuce and backed by far left.Boris is on the right.Farage could split the Tory vote and let Corbyn in with the farcical Lib dems helping Labour get the majority. What's going to happen folks. I know loads of labour voters who cant stand Corbyn and said they wont bother voting. Remember mods it's the international break so........... Libs will walk it and Scots will get independence
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 13:55:06 GMT
Torys and Farage will walk it.
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Post by BillyNoMatesformerlyTheMadFrog on Sept 5, 2019 14:08:11 GMT
I wish Labour would feck Corbyn off and someone else
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 14:08:36 GMT
Labour will get slaughtered the majority of their seats are leave. They have pisssed off the electorate big style.
Tories not massive amounts of leave but they still won decent number of remain seats whilst saying no deal better than a bad deal.
Corbyn has the added Jew hating stories to also deal with so I can’t see how they will get more than 160 seats.
Boris has probably harmed their chances with prorogation but he is a character and people like leaders who do what they will say. Love or hate him Trump is doing everything he said he would. Tories will probably still get 250 seats without trying.
Libdems will only win seats due to them being a definite remain party while nobody else has guaranteed it.
Still can’t see them getting more than 160 seats though.
The big conundrum is what if any deal does farage because that decides a lot. Brexit party could easily win 100 seats because over 400 voted remain and I don’t think many have changed their mind.
If referendum was by seat number it would have been over and done with in 2016.
The carve up of the marginal seats could swing it a lot.
What has been going on right under our noses is a disgrace and the whole of the political class have a lot to be ashamed of. We approach 4 years not serving the will of the people.
The election if it happens will throw up more trouble with yet more coalition and if it is labour Libdem then brexit is out which is why all this spoiling is going on.
Even if there is another referendum it will be 3 choices
Remain No deal Deal
Hey presto split the leave vote.
Democracy well and truly dead.
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Post by monkeyman on Sept 5, 2019 14:20:11 GMT
What's the point in voting now? They've just ignored the outcome of the last 'big vote'that we had, so why bother casting a vote?
Also, who the fcuk would I vote for?
A bunch of toffs, led by totally out of touch, wiggy imbecile with a cringe factor that puts David Brent to shame?
A bunch of self loathing and snidey wannabe communists, led by a terrorist sympathiser, who is a dead ringer of Malcolm from The Modern Parents?
That leaves namby pamby Lib Dems or crazy racists like UKIP or the Brexit Party, do me a favour! That's only if you are lucky enough to have more than 3 options in your constituency.
I think I'll stsy at home and save myself from endorsing some useless nuct. I refuse to chose between a giant douche and a shit sandwich!
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Post by jazzzy786 on Sept 5, 2019 14:34:56 GMT
I think people are just pissed off with this Brexit thing. A lot voted because of immigration and being forced by Europe on migration. The full economic shit that comes with leave was unknown. The value of the pound has dropped significantly though a lot it is because of uncertainty.Ireland hard border is another thorny issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 14:53:42 GMT
I think the monster raving looney party are a good option.
The only reason to vote brexit party would be to go no deal the EU will crawl a day after you leave there are 400 billion reasons to do so.
I think to say it’s just immigration is out of touch.
If anything the belligerent way EU have behaved over ‘negotiations’ are daily proof why we want to leave this organisation who has a view their way or the highway so it’s actually proven why people fight for our country to make its own decisions.
In 40 more years whilst still in EU if it happened you could dissolve parliament because national politics will be abolished by the EU as the reality is why have law makers when there is someone above you already overruling what you try doing anyway.
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Post by bubba on Sept 5, 2019 15:07:41 GMT
A short time ago, in a continent not that far away
The evil trade federation
has rounded on the peaceful country of Naboo
whose citizens had held a legal democratic vote to decide their future membership and decided to leave, and forced through politcking and scaremongering the will of Naboo's own people to be ignored.
Money and power had seized control of Naboo's news and media corporations using propaganda and fear to turn the will of the Naboo people to the cause of the Trade Federation.
Agents of deception, previously planted within Naboo's own political system were now initiated to act as a 5th column, working from within to bring Naboo to heel.
Meanwhile secretly, yet in plain site the evil Sith Lord, Darth Sidius
had assumed control of the Trade Federation and declared it an Empire, intent on it's own centralised political, financial and cultural union with it's own armed forces.
Darth Sidius entrusts his apprentice the malevolent Darth Vader
to crush the rebellion. He has recently returned from overseeing the construction of the fully operational Death Cern
and seeks to put down the rebellion once and for all.
Meanwhile, two Jedi Knights have emerged in Naboo
seeking to restore justice and order, and repel the evil empire, before all hope is lost.
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Post by mark1875 on Sept 5, 2019 15:10:32 GMT
Very good Bubba
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Post by leather on Sept 5, 2019 15:20:49 GMT
Torys and Farage will walk it. this
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Post by leather on Sept 5, 2019 15:27:10 GMT
A short time ago, in a continent not that far away
The evil trade federation
has rounded on the peaceful country of Naboo
whose citizens had held a legal democratic vote to decide their future membership and decided to leave, and forced through politcking and scaremongering the will of Naboo's own people to be ignored.
Money and power had seized control of Naboo's news and media corporations using propaganda and fear to turn the will of the Naboo people to the cause of the Trade Federation.
Agents of deception, previously planted within Naboo's own political system were now initiated to act as a 5th column, working from within to bring Naboo to heel.
Meanwhile secretly, yet in plain site the evil Sith Lord, Darth Sidius
had assumed control of the Trade Federation and declared it an Empire, intent on it's own centralised political, financial and cultural union with it's own armed forces.
Darth Sidius entrusts his apprentice the malevolent Darth Vader
to crush the rebellion. He has recently returned from overseeing the construction of the fully operational Death Cern
and seeks to put down the rebellion once and for all.
Meanwhile, two Jedi Knights have emerged in Naboo
seeking to restore justice and order, and repel the evil empire, before all hope is lost.
Fcuking Brilliant👍👍👍 i reckon u could make a fortune out of turning it into a series of films 🤣👍
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Post by expatjohn on Sept 5, 2019 15:36:00 GMT
The Brexit party needs to concentrate on leave majority labour seats. They will no doubt gain many votes, but probably not many seats.
Any vote for Labour is a vote for oblivion.
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Post by monkeyman on Sept 5, 2019 15:41:31 GMT
Very good, Bubbs. Lol.
Yousa people gonna die!?! ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 15:53:19 GMT
I grew up from a family of staunch labour voters and was a labour voter but in recent years starting with Kinnock and onwards I found that I just can’t identify with them especially as I prefer capitalism within reason.
Blair just lied more than most especially about the war.
Now this cretin in charge is just scum. Boris ain’t no saint with flip flopping but Corbyn is probably the worst ever. Marxism, communism call it what you like it don’t work, socialism ain’t much better. He has never voted for a single piece of Eu legislation but is now driving anti brexit and it’s nothing more than spoiling.
I share a flat with one of his supporters who says he a true socialist but when I said if someone offered you a security job for 50k a day would you take it and he says yes!!
This is the thing with socialism these people want more money but they would rather clever people earn it and share with them!!
You get into this life what you put in, yes done are lucky to be born into it but largely the rich get rich by working hard for it and being ambitious which my flat mate only ambition is to earn enough to afford beer.
I despised Thatcher but this cretin is running her close!!
Maybe I despised Thatcher more as I had a poor upbringing and the influence of older experienced family members.
Although social housing is still all her fault!!
Anyway soap box down before I really lose it lol
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Post by sapfo on Sept 5, 2019 15:54:10 GMT
Immigration is a major problem. We've allowed the certain political seat to be dominated by certain cultures, who in turn abuse for their own ends by using their religion to emotionally blackmail they fellow Muslims into joining their latest 'fight'. Be that a park, or a new GP. It's all feckin corrupt to buy the local voting population.
Whole areas have changed. Small Heath for example is in full Wahhabi mode now. I know Asian women who are treated aggressively by men if they are not covered from head to toe around there.
Pakistani culture is a major problem. These young Pakistani boys are all show. Hiring fast cars, keeping up with the Khans etc... They show off, until someone dies. The culture is based around scamming as much as feckin possible, not the religion, the culture!! Money is first to Pakistanis, as much as they tell you it's religion. Add there scamming aspect to Bengali's too, although they are more religious than the Pakistanis. They made better curies too. Its a 'feck everyone else, take what you take' culture! Then blame the British Empire !!
How about the EU robbing our car industry with 'sweeteners' to Slovakia ?
How about my EU mates who ask me how is the EU a success, if they have to leave their home to have a good life?
The EU is big fat fvckin failure !! The cvnts handicapping the the "No Deal' are traitors, and should all be deal with as they used too. Why would any Brit handicap us from achieve the best deal for our own country?
This whole episode has really opened my eyes to how dangerouse these new lefties really are. They moving normal left of centre people towards the right with their antics.
Where the feck is guy Fawkes when you need him? Blow the feckin lot of them up & start again I say !!
Bring back Spitting Image. Feck me! They could have an episode every day!
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Post by bluenoserob on Sept 5, 2019 16:05:18 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn is an out and out communist. He has no love for our country. He has hijacked the Labour Party. This man lays wreaths at the graves of terrorists who assassinated Jewish athletes at the Munich Olympics. He wears a white poppy for Gods sake. Wants to honour the IRA. Has allowed anti Semitic behaviour to blossom under his leadership, in other words he is a 100% racist. Praises the way Venezuela is run by a corrupt regime. How can any Labour Party member ignore this hateful man?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 16:24:22 GMT
He was slaying the pounds value the other day because in reality a weak pound is the only project fear success.
Even then that caused by negative media for 3 years about the virtual cliff we are supposed to be going over.
Meanwhile the Venezuelan currency is the biggest failure in exchange history lol
Sadly I do see Boris having to reignite mays deal and that is a bag of shit too.
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Post by expatjohn on Sept 5, 2019 16:45:53 GMT
Careful! Please don't slip into racism.
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Post by billybeer on Sept 5, 2019 18:24:51 GMT
Given the wretched incoherent incompetent leadership of Johnson since he took office (not that you weren’t warned), it encapsulates the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the posturing Brexiters... no amount of tenuous whataboutery, flag waving can paranoia can hide the gaping hole in its heart...
By the way... what do you think will happen after a No Deal crash out... the British will spend the next few years trying to get back what they already have...
At least Bubba has finally admitted he has leaders he looks up to... well chosen Bubba!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 18:44:31 GMT
Merkel will be straight on the phone after the crash out!
The Germany economy is heavily reliant on the 1 in 6 cars that we buy...That's the tip of the iceberg.
The proof if ever it was needed is the EU's willingness to continue to extend despite making threats to the contrary. The UK alone takes £400bn per year goods and services from them, we only sell £330bn. Therefore the deficit is favourable for us.
If anyone thinks that the EU won't pursue deals with us they are on cloud cuckoo and even more so Tariffs will be tiny if anything at all!
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Post by iceberg on Sept 5, 2019 18:49:00 GMT
Not sure what i think to be honest. Corbyn doesn't sing reign over us and blow smoke up royal hoop and Boris dances to Mr Blue Sky at the Olympics.
I'll go Corbyn. When's the vote?
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Post by bringbackstanding on Sept 5, 2019 19:30:55 GMT
An aside to the Brexit fun and games...boycott EU products especially German goods whenever possible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 19:32:51 GMT
Modern folk don't boycott. Just like Blues
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Post by iceberg on Sept 5, 2019 19:34:09 GMT
An aside to the Brexit fun and games...boycott EU products especially German goods whenever possible. Why? Have you ever lived in Germany?
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Post by bubba on Sept 5, 2019 19:48:40 GMT
Given the wretched incoherent incompetent leadership of Johnson since he took office (not that you weren’t warned), it encapsulates the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the posturing Brexiters... no amount of tenuous whataboutery, flag waving can paranoia can hide the gaping hole in its heart... By the way... what do you think will happen after a No Deal crash out... the British will spend the next few years trying to get back what they already have... At least Bubba has finally admitted he has leaders he looks up to... well chosen Bubba! Still trying to pigeon-hole me, still failing. Just because you're unable to escape a supposed and imposed political dichotomy, doesn't mean we're all doomed to be so handicapped.
I want Brexit, unlike remainers in Parliament I don't hide my agenda by claiming I want a deal when they really want to overturn the vote entirely.
I think it's appalling that it seems the country's best hopes for that end are the two figures you reckon I look up to. We play the hand we're dealt but once their purpose is served I'd gladly throw them on the bonfire with the rest.
I'm wasting my time explaining this to you though, for some unfathomable reason you've got it into your head that I'm some raging right wing fascist even though I've stated multiple times I'm largely apolitical, have never voted in a general election and think both the system and most politicians on all sides are corrupt and exist solely to serve themselves and their paymasters, not the people they purportedly represent.
It seems to your way of thinking my yearning for Brexit is evidence enough of the political leanings you ascribe to me, as though somehow you have determined that centrist and left-wingers could never want Brexit, which is very very strange and quite wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 20:08:18 GMT
Sadly people who support Brexit are always accused of being FAR RIGHT!!
It's a way of trying to bully you to be scared to voice your views. I still remember the stigma pre-brexit that if you are going to vote for it then you are a racist! My opinion on that is the main reason the result surprised plenty of people politicians and media alike because people who were going to vote out in the main wouldn't say it publicly.
Also social media data gatherers forgot to counter the polls without realising the that social media users are generally the young side of 30-40 and in some cases most of them either can't vote or don't even know how to.
My biggest fear if a vote was done again is that in nearly 4 years almost 2m youngsters have gained the right to vote and around 1.5m older folk are not here to vote. Obviously very rough numbers but just ball park figures on why I think a brand new IN OR OUT could change merely because of this. Even now if they rip up the parliament act it's potential for a bill to add votes for over 16s which I was in favour for many many years ago as a tax payer but for me now that they mandated to stay in school until 18 my view is no tax no say!
I would say the majority of people didn't vote with race in mind and most who did vote out are a mixture with a sizeable portion of centre right and a small portion of far right.
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Post by billybeer on Sept 5, 2019 20:17:56 GMT
Bubbs...
You are a Kipper .. just get over it...
Wanting Brexit and claiming to be apolitical is just a contradiction..... to be frank.. hypocrisy..
By the way... Tories like Hammond, Stewart and others voted for a deal... it is Johnson and Farage who are baying for “No Deal” .. although they spent most of the Referendum campaign assuring people that a deal was easy and we would remain in the European Single Market... they are just bullshitters, and if you support Brexit you are just been played... suckers dancing to the tune tune of Putin, Murdoch and Trump..
Also., being boringly serious, based on the Governments own figures, food inflation will be about 10% directly due to Brexit and WTO tariffs are significant for for many things
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 20:18:03 GMT
Slightly left of centre voted leave want to honour referendum but would now rather remain than leave with no deal.i am not on my own either.have to say there are loads of things I feel more strongly about,nhsincreasing gap between rich and poor.tories have spent most of last 3 years ignoring everything other than trying to keep party together,they are responsible for this mess.dont like Corbyn at all,detest Boris no opinion on Swinson.can we get back to talking about pep this is even more depressing.
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